Pre-Game Team Entrance Lap: T?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

So who gets the direct?

The team's scorekeeper.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

So did ours, but no penalty was described if they did. Figures.

Darn, now I have to stay awake for pregame warm-ups just in case.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Darn, now I have to stay awake for pregame warm-ups just in case.

I have little eye stickers I put on over my eyelids, so I can sleep standing up with nobody knowing. Does any other state require officials to take the court at TWENTY minutes?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Does any other state require officials to take the court at TWENTY minutes?

Yes.

[Kingsman1288]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

So who gets the direct?

From what I was told, no one does. The penalty is simply an indirect to the head coach.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Kingsman1288

From what I was told, no one does. The penalty is simply an indirect to the head coach.

In NFHS rules, you CAN'T have only an indirect to the head coach. In NFHS, the indirect is only given when a direct technical foul is assessed to a member of bench personnel.

[walter]

Originally Posted by chseagle

So here's a question for everyone.

My alma mater has been doing the full court lap for warmups since before I attended there, what can be done to cease this "unsporting" activity since it is actually illegal to do?

Our state wants it banged since this is not new. The full court lap, huddling in the center circle, full court use for warmups, etc. They want a "T" issued to the head coach and he loses the coaching box. Doesn't matter whether he/she is there or not when it happens.

[Kingsman1288]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

In NFHS rules, you CAN'T have only an indirect to the head coach. In NFHS, the indirect is only given when a direct technical foul is assessed to a member of bench personnel.

Duhhh...major brain fart on my part. Good thing I had it now and not during the season

Maybe it was a direct to the coach? I'm getting conflicting answers so I'm just going to email the state office.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Kingsman1288

Duhhh...major brain fart on my part. Good thing I had it now and not during the season

Maybe it was a direct to the coach? I'm getting conflicting answers so I'm just going to email the state office.

There is a ruling in the Case Book that says a HC can receive an indirect when the TEAM is charged with a technical foul. Normally, a TEAM technical foul does not count towards the HC in any way, but there are a few instances where it is appropriate for the indirect to be assessed.

This would seem like one of those cases.

BTW POE #2 in this year's book now makes it a national policy whereas the previous policy of the NFHS was to leave this area up to the determination of each individual state association. That's a big deal, if your state didn't have any previous regulations on these activities. Such is the case with Nevada.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

BTW POE #2 in this year's book now makes it a national policy whereas the previous policy of the NFHS was to leave this area up to the determination of each individual state association. That's a big deal, if your state didn't have any previous regulations on these activities. Such is the case with Nevada.

This is the first I've seen this, Nevada. You're right, it's a big deal. CO hasn't had a policy that I've been aware of. For those states, it is new, and I wonder if the state offices are going to direct a softer approach the first year.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Does any other state require officials to take the court at TWENTY minutes?

Generally around here, the floor officials make their presence known after the teams have already taken the court, with between 15-18 minutes left of pregame.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Generally around here, the floor officials make their presence known after the teams have already taken the court, with between 15-18 minutes left of pregame.

"Make their presence known?" Do you mean simply walk out onto the court? Or is it like Texas, where the officials blow their whistle to let the pampered athletes know it's time to stop breaking the rules?

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

"Make their presence known?" Do you mean simply walk out onto the court? Or is it like Texas, where the officials blow their whistle to let the pampered athletes know it's time to stop breaking the rules?

Sorry, should of clarified...I was meaning they are not present when the teams first come out for warmups. They come out while the teams are in the middle of their warmups.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

"Make their presence known?" Do you mean simply walk out onto the court? Or is it like Texas, where the officials blow their whistle to let the pampered athletes know it's time to stop breaking the rules?

Might be more a case of the coaches in Texas. Don't want to upset 'em.

Ricockulous practice! Find an excuse to ignore a very plainly-written rule that's been in effect umpty-ump years. Texas wants to change their officials into See No Evil monkeys. If you're not going to follow it, just change the damn rule.

Grumble, grumble, grumble.....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Might be more a case of the coaches in Texas. Don't want to upset 'em.

Ricockulous practice! Find an excuse to ignore a very plainly-written rule that's been in effect umpty-ump years. Texas wants to change their officials into See No Evil monkeys. If you're not going to follow it, just change the damn rule.

Grumble, grumble, grumble.....

I'm with ya, boss.