What would you do?
 

A1 is fouled in the act of shooting. As he comes to the line, he untucks his shirt. This is not in disgust with the call or a show of emotion. He just untucked to shoot his free throws. What do you do?

I follow case book play 3.3.5SitA.

But that's just me.:D

Btw, that case play ain't new. They just added a "COMMENT" to it to cover coaches trying to call A TO to keep the player in the game.

Doesn't that ruling contradict the illegal jewelry / headband ruling?

In both cases, the transgression can be quickly corrected with no delay. SO, why is one player directed to leave, and the other can remain?

Party Pooper
 

:p:(

I would have thought...
 

It seems to me that the ruling should have been to remove the player immediately and get a sub for the shooter. Instead they want us to clear the lane and shoot the free throws and then give the ball to team b regardless of whether or not the 2nd free throw is made.

I understand giving the ball to team B since we clear the lane. But what I disagree with is clearing the lane in the first place. It seems a stiff penalty for a uniform violation. Team A loses the chance to get a rebound on the 2nd free throw.

It just doesn't seem to fit with the rule, but I'll enforce it as written, just seems odd to me.

Yes ...and I have no idea why they have different and contradictory rulings.

And to be completely honest, I'm not sure that I'd follow that case play anyway if I ever ran into that situation(but don't tell anybody :p).

Oh no he didn't!

ok
 

I wont tell anyone. Your secret safe with me. And I wont post it on a public forum either! :D

Is it correct to assume the ensuing throw-in would be on the endline with the ability to run the endline if the last FT was made?

I would think so. Can't see why not.

It's not correct to assume that. You should look it up and know it.

(The ruling, however, is correct.)

Oh heck, I'll say it...
 

Rules rulz!:D

"Hey -- tuck it in"
 

don't have the book with me... But say it's a close game, A is with ball and up by one, double bonus, 10 sec or less left and B fouls the A's worst shooter, say a .500 foul shooter. He misses the field goal and gets two at the line. Foulee pulls shirt out, is sent off, better shooter (all that remain are better shooters) picked to take the shot, sinks two. Team B, which made strategic foul on a specific player believing they had a good chance he'd hit one or none, so that a field goal would win or tie if they got possession, now must sink a three to tie because A1s violation let A get the lousy shooter off the line. If the lousy shooter went to the line, B would have a good chance at a rebound, and maybe a t/o, after he hits none or one of two.

"So son, you are awful at the line, so if you get fouled in the last half minute, pull your shirt out so we can get someone else to the line"

Or did I miss something?

Most of the time.....:D

That's what makes officiating an art instead of a science.

Yup, you don't send the FT shooter off until after he finishes his FT's.

*3.3.5 situation a ...
 

*3.3.5 SITUATION A: B1 fouls A1. Just before A1 goes to the line for a oneand-
one, the official observes: (a) A1 pull the shirt out of his/her pants; or (b) A1’s
pants being worn below the hips. RULING: In both (a) and (b), A1 will be directed
to put the shirt in the pants or pull up the pants, and must leave the game
immediately following his/her last free throw(s). The lane is cleared for the free
throw and Team B is awarded the ball for a throw-in, whether or not the last free
throw is successful. COMMENT: A charged time-out by Team A does not alter the
requirement for A1 to leave the game.

Friar Tuck ...
 

Does it have to do with a uniform in one case versus equipment in the other case? Just asking.

I would keenly observe that there is moisture on ball. As I was wiping it off on my pants I would say "Golly, this would be a good time to for those of you who don't have their shirts tucked in to do so now." If that didn't do the trick then I would do what the good book says. (Judge not lest ye be not judged!) HA

Seems one is a deliberate action...everyone saw them pull the shirt out. Wearing an illegal item isn't quite the same.

That said, I can also see why you wouldn't send the player out immediately in either case....maybe the coach would have his worst FT shooter pull his shirt out anytime he was fouled!!!!

This is quite simple.

"A1, tuck your shirt in"

If they don't then we have a new FT shooter.

reference, please.

Oh?

Constable,

Check out the reference JR provided (post #2) and Billy posted (post #16).

Then read (post #13) by amusedofficial to understand why there would by an advantage gained.