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Nevadaref Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:06pm

Gonzalez arrested on shoplifting charge
 
Ex-Seton Hall coach Bobby Gonzalez arrested for shoplifting - ESPN New York

Indianaref Wed Jul 07, 2010 06:18am

"allegedly removing the sensor device from the satchel and walking out of the store". Sounds like a "miscommunication and a series of misunderstandings" to me.

mbyron Wed Jul 07, 2010 06:41am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 684675)

Could you post the whole story please. :D

Mark Padgett Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:02am

"According to a police report, the store manager reported that the manager of a restaurant in the mall returned a men's satchel. The restaurant manager said someone had come into the eatery, left the satchel with the hostess and never returned."

I guess he discovered the restaurant provides its own bags for take-out.

Camron Rust Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:59pm

After reading the story, I'm wondering how the decided it was him....

He had discarded the satchel in another store where it was found by an employee who returned it to the original store.

Did it have his fingerprints? Did the person who saw him leave it recognized him? Video? There is a lot not in that story.

JRutledge Wed Jul 07, 2010 01:39pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 684750)
There is a lot not in that story.

That is nothing new or special. That is the case anytime there is a story like this on a public figure. I bet if the charges are changed or thrown out, we will not hear anything about it. ;)

Peace

Mark Padgett Wed Jul 07, 2010 02:46pm

Here in Oregon, he'd be convicted under what we call the "TN" statute.

BillyMac Wed Jul 07, 2010 06:35pm

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... Gasoline.
Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 684708)
Could you post the whole story please.


Mark Padgett Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 684750)
After reading the story, I'm wondering how the decided it was him....

He had discarded the satchel in another store where it was found by an employee who returned it to the original store.

Did it have his fingerprints? Did the person who saw him leave it recognized him? Video? There is a lot not in that story.

Camron - the CIA black helicopters captured him on video. You know, the same ones Phil Knight sends over the practices of Pac-10 teams and then has them download their data to the U of O. BTW - did you see the big contribution Knight made to Chris Dudley's campaign? Of course for Knight, it's just pocket change.

Texas Aggie Sat Jul 10, 2010 07:21pm

I don't think they would have arrested (or charged) him without SOME evidence -- more than likely a video. But a video from where is the question. The statement of the attorney, though, is puzzling. He said something like "he didn't INTEND to steal anything." That's a highly legal statement since intent is a required element of most crimes. If the video evidence showed the coach with the briefcase at the bar, he could say he found it, and the statement from his attorney should be "he didn't steal anything."

My guess is that the store video showed him walking out with it. Of course, his attorney knew he took it.

The video, from either source, is purely investigative. It won't be admissible in court unless someone can testify that it depicts what actually happened at that point and time. Unless they have other evidence, this case won't go further.


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