Technical Foul
 

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Yes, the technical foul is still charged to A1 despite the fact that he has already committed five personal fouls which warrants disqualification.
So now he has six fouls--no big deal.

You seem to be under the mistaken notion that there is a limit to the number of fouls an individual can be assessed in an NFHS game. The truth is that there is no specific allotment.
There are simply different ways in which a person can earn a disqualification through a combination of personal and technical fouls.

If an individual "fouls out" through committing personal fouls, and then misbehaves he can certainly still be charged with technical fouls. (It would take a mistake in game administration, but he could even be charged with six personal fouls if he were mistakenly allowed to continue to participate and fouled again.)

I agree with Nevada. It is important to record this as a player technical despite being his sixth foul, especially when he has had another player technical in the game. That player should be not only disqualified but ejected, with any attendant state penalties for having been ejected (suspension and so on).

Some players and coaches seem to think that getting some combination of technical fouls permits them to be idiots toward officials. State associations mostly understand otherwise.

Indirect Technical Foul ???
 

Keep in mind that once the coach is informed that A1 has fouled out, A1 now becomes bench personnel, and any technical fouls on A1 would also be charged indirectly to the head coach.

I once gave a player two flagrant fouls in one game.

Cool! I'm envious. :D

Oh is this kind of like one of those Chuck Norris lines?

Snaqs once gave two flagrant fouls...for one single act. OK, maybe not so much.

Actually, if Snaqs was Chuck Norris, all he would have to do is look at the player, and the player would charge himself with two flagrants.

I'm pretty sure Chuck Norris blocked a Jon Diebler shot once. Only once because Diebler never attempted another shot within Norris' range.

By that, you mean the entire court, correct?

Well of course. :rolleyes:

You gave them to him? Were they wrapped? ;)

Actually, Snaqs is the the Dos Equis guy! You've seen his commercials on TV.

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Snaqs once had an awkward moment, just to see what it felt like.

Story please.

So just to clarify, if the sixth foul is called before the coach is notified, it's just a sixth foul, with no consequences to anyone else (except the team foul count). If it occurs after notification, it's a bench technical. Correct?

Not just a "bench" technical, but an indirect on the current/acting head coach specifically.

Understood. Doesn't a bench technical always result in an indirect to the head coach?

I guess you could say that but, technically, there is no such thing as a "bench" technical.

Also, it should not be confused with administrative technicals that are charged to the team but NOT against a player or coach (direct or indirect). Being an undefined term, "bench" technicals might associated with these by some people.

You might want to let the NFHS know that bit of information.

From page 60 of the NFHS Rules Book:
Rule 10, Section 4 BENCH TECHNICAL

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No Such Animal ...
 

But I know one when I see one. (Apologies to Justice Potter Stewart)

That's only for a technical called on this guy.

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Please keep in mind that the NFHS does not want players to be ejected from the playing area, except in situations where their behavior on the bench continues to be a problem after disqualification or in some other extreme or unusual situation. And even then, when the ejected player leaves the gym, he/she is to be accompanied by an adult associated with the team .

ok.

I stand corrected. I guess I just think of them as directs on the player/coaches involved and/or indirects on the HC. The effect is the same in any case. And, you don't really call a "bench technical". You just call a T (normal, intentional, or flagrant) and charge it to someone (along with the coach).

FWIW I agree with your thinking.

In our local kids rec league, when a player is ejected (extremely rare, BTW) he or she just goes and sits in the stands. We're not sending a little kid outside and hope he or she is with their mommy or daddy.

However, if we eject a coach (not so rare in my case), that dude or dudette not only has to leave the building, but they are banished to another state. OK - that's not the case but I might suggest a rule change so that it is. :cool:

Mark, I'm curious about your thought process on this. Why not just leave them on the bench like normal (NFHS) rules?

Like I said, this is extremely rare. We remove them from the bench so that the impact of being ejected for extremely bad behavior is magnified. They go up and sit with their parents and they usually get an earful from them. Since this league stresses sportsmanship above all else (except for player safety, of course), this seems to fit in with that philosophy. This was the rule from the start of this organization over 30 years ago and no one has had a compelling reason to change it. In fact, no one has ever even questioned it to my knowledge, and I've going into my 18th year on the Board.

Sounds like two roads to the same destination.

I find it important to distinguish the bench technicals from the team technicals. (Player, sub, and head coach Ts are more obvious.) A few years ago, someone on our board took away the coaching box for a second d.o.g. warning (the second being water on the court after a time out). Of course, we know that to be incorrect, as multiple d.o.g. infractions are always team technicals.

While we don't have to verbalize "bench" or "team," I think a little preventive medicine could help in these matters.