"I'm 52 years old, and in all my years..."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by DLH17

JR....relax. This isn't personal. Everything I've said about my experiences in this thread are factual.

I'm ok with the fact you "don't give a damn".

Perhaps move on to another thread you can control or whatever it is you find gratifying.'

edit: and, I never said anything about "needing coach's approval". you assume that to be true. in reality, i have fun what i do. it's a people business.

I will comment on any darn post I damn well want to comment on. You just got caught saying something and you have been called on your BS by a lot of people. And those people are all over the country and in different jurisdictions. And you even have people that do not agree on many things tend to see through your BS. Maybe you are the one that needs to move on to another thread and stop digging yourself such a big hole by saying things that make no sense.

I will say this again. I do not believe for a second that you do all these things so well and you are working multiple games in a row. I will not buy at all regardless of your age. It would take a great deal of focus or extreme shape to accomplish that feat. And as someone that evaluates officials as part of my career and the position I hold, I seriously doubt you are what you say you are.

Peace

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I will comment on any darn post I damn well want to comment on. You just got caught saying something and you have been called on your BS by a lot of people. And those people are all over the country and in different jurisdictions. And you even have people that do not agree on many things tend to see through your BS. Maybe you are the one that needs to move on to another thread and stop digging yourself such a big hole by saying things that make no sense.

You are the mouthpiece for a bunch of people from many different jurisdictions on an anonymous internet forum, huh? Talk about BS. Take the chip off your shoulder.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I will say this again. I do not believe for a second that you do all these things so well and you are working multiple games in a row. I will not buy at all regardless of your age. It would take a great deal of focus or extreme shape to accomplish that feat. And as someone that evaluates officials as part of my career and the position I hold, I seriously doubt you are what you say you are.

Peace

And, I will say again - I don't consider myself to "do all these things so well". But, I do listen, learn and hustle.

Finally, where did I say I officiated "multiple games in a row"?

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You hustled and used the correct mechanics on all plays in every game. And you're 52 years old. And you never slowed down one little bit, even in your eighth game of your second day doing 8 games/day.

On all plays in every game? Probably not. I'm human.

100% effort to try to be mechanically correct on all plays...w/o a doubt. As mechanically correct as possible most of the time... absolutely. Why would I try not to be?

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And btw, when everybody in that real world out there tells you that maybe you should re-think your position, don't you think that maybe...just maybe...it might not be a bad idea to consider that option?

Everybody? I love that. EVERYBODY.

Anyway, to answer your question - did you read my response to Nevadaref? He gave some helpful input. Loved it. Useful. Helped me evaluate my take on lead in 2 man in situations where lead can't get all the way to baseline.

Nevadaref can post on any damn thread he wants and gives damn good feedback w/o blowing a gasket.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I noticed switching on all fouls and reporting fouls from the proper reporting area on not on his list.

Falls under the category of "hustling", no?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DLH17

edit: I did 8 games Sat and 8 games Sun and never slowed down...

Seriously, I'm not sure if you understand or not, but this is the part people are calling BS. You may have tried, you may have hustled, you may have even been in position; but to suggest you didn't even slow down after 5 games on the same day? Most of us can maintain some sort of suspension of disbelief, but this stretches it for us.
And, if it's true that you were able to do all this, well, it's a good thing they don't test officials for PEDs. If you're simply a freak of nature, that's different, but you should at least excuse our disbelief. We had no idea you were actually Jon Diebler in disguise.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Seriously, I'm not sure if you understand or not, but this is the part people are calling BS. You may have tried, you may have hustled, you may have even been in position; but to suggest you didn't even slow down after 5 games on the same day? Most of us can maintain some sort of suspension of disbelief, but this stretches it for us.
And, if it's true that you were able to do all this, well, it's a good thing they don't test officials for PEDs. If you're simply a freak of nature, that's different, but you should at least excuse our disbelief. We had no idea you were actually Jon Diebler in disguise.

I pride myself in being in pretty good shape for my age. About a month ago after this last winter season ended I did five tourney games in a row on a HS sized court. I gave it my all for sure, but much as I tried, I know I defintiely s l o w e d down by the end. Then, I drove the 40 minutes home, opened the car door, and had one heck of a time just getting out of the car. So sad.....

The mind is willing buy the flesh is weak.....

As Clint once said (insert photo here), "A man's got to know his limitations." And, I know mine - depending on the size of the floor.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And tonight I watched two partners overhustle as they chased loose balls out of bounds.

Pet peeve. Every once in awhile I will have a player look at me and ask "Aren't you going to get the ball?" I always respond, "I don't need a ball to do my job but you might need one to do yours"!!
As for an earlier comment, about the disrespect of some for officials who try to cater to coaches, I must make a confession. I fully admit to doing my best to cater and win favor with one particular HS coach in the area. She is a very tall, athletic and leggy coach with nice green eyes and light brown hair...............oh yeah she also has the same last name as mine! (no I do NOT live in wv and she is NOT my sister!!)

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DLH17

You are the mouthpiece for a bunch of people from many different jurisdictions on an anonymous internet forum, huh? Talk about BS. Take the chip off your shoulder.

No... he's just the only one still reading your nonsense and replying to it. Most of the rest of us gave up on you long ago.

Originally Posted by DLH17

Finally, where did I say I officiated "multiple games in a row"?

LOL. Wow. If only the internet kept threads so you could go back and read what you said ... oh... yeah... it does. Idiot.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

No... he's just the only one still reading your nonsense and replying to it. Most of the rest of us gave up on you long ago.
LOL. Wow. If only the internet kept threads so you could go back and read what you said ... oh... yeah... it does. Idiot.

Show me.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Show me.

Post 21.

Originally Posted by DLH17

I did 8 games Sat and 8 games Sun and never slowed down...and I'm an old fart. I got paid the same game rate as the others. And, I give those players what they paid for.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Seriously, I'm not sure if you understand or not, but this is the part people are calling BS. You may have tried, you may have hustled, you may have even been in position; but to suggest you didn't even slow down after 5 games on the same day? Most of us can maintain some sort of suspension of disbelief, but this stretches it for us.
And, if it's true that you were able to do all this, well, it's a good thing they don't test officials for PEDs. If you're simply a freak of nature, that's different, but you should at least excuse our disbelief. We had no idea you were actually Jon Diebler in disguise.

Ok...thanks for pointing that out. I can see how people would question that. Maybe I physically "slowed down" from game 1 to game 8, but the effort and hustle did not diminish. In game 8, I'm still making a concerted effort to call a good game and be in the right place at the right time. Did I run from baseline to half court in the same amount of time near the end of the day as the beginning of the day? Probably not. Was I still running to my spots. Absolutely. If you clocked me, sure, I'm probably a little "slower". But noone would look at me and say, 'geez, that guy is spent. he's not even running or making an effort at this point.'.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Post 21.

the word(s) "consecutive" and "in a row" are nowhere to be found

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Pet peeve. Every once in awhile I will have a player look at me and ask "Aren't you going to get the ball?" I always respond, "I don't need a ball to do my job but you might need one to do yours"!!

LOL, I've never had a player ask. I just say, "help with the ball please." If a quick step will recover the ball and I don't have to turn away from the players, I'll do it. Summer ball here is a lot of running clocks, so the players don't want to lose playing time watching the ball bounce in the bleachers.

[Judtech]

It happens occasionally. I chased a ball ONCE my first year at a camp. Let's just say that the evaluator disuaded me from doing that again!!
In games with running clocks and a player just shagged a loose ball, I feel it is IMPERATIVE to make sure that there are 5 players from each team on the floor, there are no subs waiting at the table, my partner/s are ready and have no information to give me, remind the player whether it is a 'spot' throw in or they can run and making sure the defender does not reach over plane before I take one last look around before handing the ball to the player to put in play. I just LOVE running clocks!!

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DLH17

the word(s) "consecutive" and "in a row" are nowhere to be found

Really... after 5 pages of people calling you out, THIS is your defense for the lie? You sound like a buddy of mine who will wordsmith to death just to win an argument for the purposes of winning the argument... instead of actually making a point.

Are you really trying to tell me now, backtracking desperately, that you managed to work 16 games in a weekend without working "consecutive" or "multiple games in a row"? Really?

Come on. Jim Joyce made the biggest blunder in 25 years, and immediately owned his mistake. Stop wordsmithing, and admit that you at the VERY LEAST misled everyone. You asserted that you could work 16 games in 2 days "without slowing down". (You should certainly be able to see why one would assume that at least some of these were either consecutive or multiple games in a row (depending on who you are arguing with). This is why you're getting blasted, and are losing credibility in a fast ugly spiral.