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Adam Mon May 17, 2010 11:45am
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Originally Posted by tref (Post 677223)
I really dislike when we do that, it clearly puts one team at a disadvantage!
Had a Gold Crown game last spring where the coach asked me if his kids had to go behind the division line. Seems to me he knew the rule but wanted to see if I was going to enforce it correctly.

Smart coach.

justacoach Mon May 17, 2010 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by tref (Post 677223)
I really dislike when we do that, it clearly puts one team at a disadvantage!
Tref:
I do not see blue type in your remark but I sense sarcasm, No?

You are depriving one team of the chance to have a private consultation with their bench, depending on 1st half or 2nd half.

Why perpetuate a myth?

tref Mon May 17, 2010 12:08pm
No sarcasm coach... I dont like when we do that to the players, period.

Adam Mon May 17, 2010 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 677228)
Tref:
I do not see blue type in your remark but I sense sarcasm, No?

You are depriving one team of the chance to have a private consultation with their bench, depending on 1st half or 2nd half.

Why perpetuate a myth?
Coach, I don't think you're reading him correctly. He's saying he doesn't like when officials make players go behind the division line, because it's clearly depriving one team of a chance to have a private consultation.

Adam Mon May 17, 2010 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 677218)
So, how often does her mother agree with you?

:D
More often than coaches.

Jurassic Referee Mon May 17, 2010 02:18pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 677210)
So what? If he comes back with something he'll get something back even better. Any coach who gets in a "smarta$$ remark" contest with me is going to come out in second place.
And if somewhere along the line in your "smartazz remark" contest, the coach tells you to go f*** yourself, you're now gonna do...what?

Again, imo this is not a good idea ever at the high school level and beyond. It's a recipe for disaster, especially for newer officials at those levels. And personally, at the rec league level I've found that at least an attempt at education works better for me than putting down some daddy-coach that obviously doesn't know much about the game. It might be a ridiculous question to you but it might also be a perfectly reasonable, valid question to the coach. They just don't know any better sometimes.

Adam Mon May 17, 2010 02:49pm
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Originally Posted by jurassic referee (Post 677261)
and if somewhere along the line in your "smartazz remark" contest, the coach tells you to go f*** yourself, you're now gonna do...what?

Again, imo this is not a good idea ever at the high school level and beyond. It's a recipe for disaster, especially for newer officials at those levels. And personally, at the rec league level i've found that at least an attempt at education works better for me than putting down some daddy-coach that obviously doesn't know much about the game. It might be a ridiculous question to you but it might also be a perfectly reasonable, valid question to the coach. They just don't know any better sometimes.
+1

Mark Padgett Mon May 17, 2010 02:52pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 677261)
And if somewhere along the line in your "smartazz remark" contest, the coach tells you to go f*** yourself, you're now gonna do...what?
Depends on how horny I am. :cool:

Judtech Mon May 17, 2010 03:10pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 677266)
Depends on how horny I am. :cool:
+1:cool:

justacoach Mon May 17, 2010 04:08pm
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Originally Posted by tref (Post 677231)
No sarcasm coach... I dont like when we do that to the players, period.
Gotcha, my bad for inferring sarcasm on your part..

zm1283 Tue May 18, 2010 03:36am
I've worked with very experienced partners who get all of the biggest games in my area that make the players stand behind the division line during FTs for a technical. That myth is perpetuated in both the coaching and officiating professions.

Adam Tue May 18, 2010 09:40am
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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 677306)
I've worked with very experienced partners who get all of the biggest games in my area that make the players stand behind the division line during FTs for a technical. That myth is perpetuated in both the coaching and officiating professions.
Yep, and if you call them on it, they'll either insist they're right or fall back on some sort of game management principal.

Rooster Tue May 18, 2010 11:35am
Help a rook...
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 677329)
Yep, and if you call them on it, they'll either insist they're right or fall back on some sort of game management principal.
So where are they to go? For the record I did look for it in the book and couldn't find it. I realize that doesn't mean it's not there but...

tref Tue May 18, 2010 11:38am
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Originally Posted by The Rooster (Post 677337)
So where are they to go? For the record I did look for it in the book and couldn't find it. I realize that doesn't mean it's not there but...
Where do the players go on any other FT if they're not in a marked lane space.

Try Rule 8 (I think)

M&M Guy Tue May 18, 2010 11:41am
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Originally Posted by tref (Post 677338)
Where do the players go on any other FT if they're not in a marked lane space.

Try Rule 8 (I think)
8-1-5 to be specific.


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