Block, Charge or No Call

[bob jenkins]

No call. B1 got there late, but it didn't affect the shot. A1 ended on the floor not because of B1 but because of B2 and that was either after or just as the ball ecame dead.

[Da Official]

This is a bang bang play and 2 players hit the floor....In my association we are expected to make a call one way or the other. Watching the video the first time I was satisfied with either a block or a charge call....but after replaying it 5 or 6 times I am confident the shooter jumped as the defender moved forward to set up....and therefore I have a block: basket and 1 shot.

It is also my opinion the shooter would have fallen without B2 crashing into him and finishing him off. Also I am assuming NFHS rules.

JMO

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Da Official

In my association we are expected to make a call one way or the other.

I've been told, "When bodies are on the ground you have to call something."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I've been told, "When bodies are on the ground you have to call something."

What I've been told is, "if you don't call something, you'd better be able to explain why."

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

What I've been told is, "if you don't call something, you'd better be able to explain why."

Then I haven't mastered it yet.

When being evaluated, my case is usually the block charge. A1 is going down the lane, B1 anticipates the charge, flops or is demonstrative with contact, and I pass. Hence the "you gotta call something."

And, while I know these are ya HTBT type situations, their advice to me is usually, call the block and tell B1 to either take the charge or knock off the acting (as he only has x# of fouls left).

I haven't mastered this yet.....but, I have another opportunity tonight. Hoorah!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Then I haven't mastered it yet.

When being evaluated, my case is usually the block charge. A1 is going down the lane, B1 anticipates the charge, flops or is demonstrative with contact, and I pass. Hence the "you gotta call something."

And, while I know these are ya HTBT type situations, their advice to me is usually, call the block and tell B1 to either take the charge or knock off the acting (as he only has x# of fouls left).

I haven't mastered this yet.....but, I have another opportunity tonight. Hoorah!

I don't like the imperative to call something whenever bodies hit the floor. In this play, the defender was late but the contact did not affect the play. No call is the right call, as others have said.

If the O-coach asks, I'd say, "no disadvantage, coach." If the D-coach asks, I'd say, "your player was late, coach." Keep your explanations to 5 words or fewer.

[rockyroad]

I'm OK with a no-call here for all the stated reasons...but what bugs me about this video is the Lead official. I can't be 100% certain, but I don't even think he is watching those players - it looks like he is watching the flight of the ball. He doesn't pay any attention to the players as they are landing at his feet.

That concerns me. That's the time when we get stupid crap going on - when the players are getting up and realize the official isn't even watching them.

[Judtech]

Just b/c I can:
This looks like a GREAT example of the "Patient Whistle" theory. It would be nice to see what would have happened had the shot not gone in. Would a block or a foul on the player trying to block the shot been called? It may just be the official waited for the bucket to go in before they determined if the contact was enough to disrupt the shot. So they ignored the block/charge and the other defender following thru and contacting the offensive player as they were both going to the ground!!
Man I am ornery today!

[truerookie]

Charge!!! I cannot see a "No call" on this play..

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No call. B1 got there late, but it didn't affect the shot. A1 ended on the floor not because of B1 but because of B2 and that was either after or just as the ball ecame dead.

I couldn't say it any better. I agree.