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Jurassic Referee Wed Apr 28, 2010 09:08pm

More NBE Officiating Follies.....
 
Posted by a nameless friend for discussion on another site.....

YouTube - The Worst Foul Ever - Joey Crawford - Suns vs Blazers Playoffs 2010 [HD]

Questions asked were:
1) Does anybody see an actual foul committed on this play?
2) How can not only the calling official but the crew get both the fouler and the foulee wrong at this level?

Thoughts?

JRutledge Wed Apr 28, 2010 09:25pm

Forgive me but I have seen something like this in a high school game. Not sure what the NBA has to do with this and your constant rants about the NBA.

Secondly, I did not see a foul but the screener that fouled Camby in my opinion. I think Joey had a brain fart like many of us do sometimes. The problem is this was on TV and now You Tube where the most of us never get this kind of scrutiny.

Peace

Judtech Wed Apr 28, 2010 09:30pm

Well since I wasn't in the locker room after the game and don't know for sure what the thinking was I will defer to someone offiicating at the highest level with much more experience than I. Obviously, there was something going on that we who were not involved were not privy to;)

JugglingReferee Wed Apr 28, 2010 09:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 675152)
Posted by a nameless friend for discussion on another site.....

YouTube - The Worst Foul Ever - Joey Crawford - Suns vs Blazers Playoffs 2010 [HD]

Questions asked were:
1) Does anybody see an actual foul committed on this play?
2) How can not only the calling official but the crew get both the fouler and the foulee wrong at this level?

Thoughts?

This story even made digg, a notable geek hang out place where sports stories are not common.

fiasco Wed Apr 28, 2010 09:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 675155)
Forgive me but I have seen something like this in a high school game. Not sure what the NBA has to do with this and your constant rants about the NBA.

Agreed. A crew kicked a play. What does it matter that they were NBA? I've seen this happen in a college game as well.

BFD. Much ado about nuffin'.

tref Thu Apr 29, 2010 09:15am

I think Joey just got it backwards (which happens to us all at some point) & his team did a poor job of "getting it right."

The only illegal contact I saw was by Grant Hill on Camby.
Joey popped when that contact occured. The T should've provided some info when Nash went to the line! Nash was in the Ts primary & he should've known there was no contact there, so something was wrong.

Overcommunicating is NOT a bad thing.

Pantherdreams Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:32pm

Obivously the crew didn't get this call right.

Having watched it a couple of times and the actions between Crawford and the coach it would appear he did have a foul on Camby but Nash should not have been shooting.

He is explaining to the coach that the player got his hand/arm up by the throat of the player he hit. Watching it over there is no good angle but it does appear the inside arm was up on Grant Hill some where when he set runs through the screen. Granted Hill was moving but there are a hundred screens a night set that way they let slide in the NBA.

Obvious confusion over who was fouled though and the crew didn't get it sorted out.

icallfouls Thu Apr 29, 2010 04:13pm

Brutal
 
No call, the most I could come up with is a marginal foul on the Suns player for an illegal screen.

More disturbing is that Crawford is so arrogant that he made up some sort of explanation that a foul occurred around the neck area. His arrogance continued when he demonstratively pointed that Nash was the player that got fouled.

What were the other two guys doing? Either they wanted to let Crawford swim in his own pile, or they were so confused as to what he called they went into a state of shock.

Crawford is one of the better officials but this one goes down as WTF?

biz Thu Apr 29, 2010 08:38pm

If you look at the video where Crawford is demonstrating the foul, he motions that the foul was a grabbing of the neck/throat. I agree that the screen that Hill sets is illegal, but if you look at Camby's arms/hands, he wraps an arm around Hill's neck. I think that this is what Crawford called, but he kicked who got fouled.

canuckrefguy Sun May 02, 2010 10:24pm

Whatever, I suppose in some part of the universe, you can sell that there was a foul.

But how do you mix up Grant Hill and Steve Nash? :confused:

Jurassic Referee Mon May 03, 2010 05:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy (Post 675516)

But how do you mix up Grant Hill and Steve Nash? :confused:

Well, other than the fact that Hill is 5" taller than Nash, is bald while Nash has hair out the wazoo, and Hill is black while Nash is white, I can certainly see how they could be mistaken at a quick glance. :D


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