on the ground shot

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Everybody is over thinking this play. The player who had control of the ball fell to the court, and therefore committed a traveling violation.

MTD, Sr.

Not "everybody" discounted that possibility.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Normally, all of the usual goaltending rules would apply, but in this specific situation it seems that the player traveled before releasing the try.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Oh really?

I don't recall seeing anything in the OP about whether the player was holding the ball when he fell, was dribbling the ball when he fell, or secured control of the ball after he fell. And only one of those makes it traveling.

Do you see something which states that the player was definitely NOT holding the ball when he fell?

The play is from a playground pick-up game and the poster didn't provide the minutest of details, so we have to make some inferences.
Hence the "it seems" in my response.

[Pantherdreams]

Well if they were playing a pick up game under international rules (rather than high school or ncca) then FIBA allows the player with the ball to fall and or slide with the ball in their possession so long as they don't roll.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Do you see something which states that the player was definitely NOT holding the ball when he fell?

If you are officiating such a play and see a player fall (without knowing if they're holding the ball or not) and subsequently see that player with the ball, do you assume they must have been holding the ball when they fell or do you withhold making a call since you don't know.

[bainsey]

Rather than making assumptions, perhaps we should seek clarity by simply asking this question...

Mutantducky: Was the player holding the ball or doing something else when falling to the floor?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Rather than making assumptions, perhaps we should seek clarity by simply asking this question...

Mutantducky: Was the player holding the ball or doing something else when falling to the floor?

Where's the fun in that?