Butler vs Duke - CREW

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I don't know, I only saw it once and I wasn't watching the action of those players, I only saw the aftermath.

How about posting a clip of the play?

I don't have a clip, but you can see highlights of the game here, and the final play is towards the end.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by fiasco

I don't have a clip, but you can see highlights of the game here, and the final play is towards the end.

i was wrong....jukes didn't set that screen....the tall kid with the mustache did....

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by fiasco

I don't have a clip, but you can see highlights of the game here, and the final play is towards the end.

Legal screen all the way.

[icallfouls]

Legal screen. Singler took 2-3 steps at the time Howard set the screen. Howard leaned into it anticipating hard contact. Just because the contact is severe doesn't make it a foul.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

Howard leaned into it anticipating hard contact.

LOL. Sorry, but I gotta give you a hard time for this one, seeing as though you have no earthly idea what Howard's intent was on leaning into the screen. He could have just as easily been thinking "I gotta lay this guy out so my boy can get his shot off."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by fiasco

LOL. Sorry, but I gotta give you a hard time for this one, seeing as though you have no earthly idea what Howard's intent was on leaning into the screen. He could have just as easily been thinking "I gotta lay this guy out so my boy can get his shot off."

Well, either way, no way that call is being made minus a premeditated decapitation.

[mutantducky]

that wasn't Howard, that was Lawrence Taylor!!!


the earlier play with Haward and Thomas) should have been an intentional foul.
Congrats Duke, players of the game Thomas* and Zoubek.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

that wasn't Howard, that was Lawrence Taylor!!!


the earlier play with Haward and Hill should have been an intentional foul.
Congrats Duke, players of the game Hill and Zoubek.

Hill? Who is Hill?

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well, either way, no way that call is being made minus a premeditated decapitation.

So you're saying if it had been an illegal screen it wouldn't have been called?

Would you have called it in that situation if it was illegal?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by fiasco

So you're saying if it had been an illegal screen it wouldn't have been called?

Would you have called it in that situation if it was illegal?

No, he's saying that since the screener was in position in plenty of time, the only way you call him for a foul is if he attempts to perform a cranial removal.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by fiasco

So you're saying if it had been an illegal screen it wouldn't have been called?

Would you have called it in that situation if it was illegal?

I haven't bothered watching the clip. I trust JR's assessment of the play.

So, nope, I wouldn't have. Not a screen where so far we have some folks saying it was legal and a few Duke fans say it wasn't.

It would have to be so obvious an illegal screen that Mr. Butler himself would have called it.

That's just reality for this particular situation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by fiasco

LOL. Sorry, but I gotta give you a hard time for this one, seeing as though you have no earthly idea what Howard's intent was on leaning into the screen. He could have just as easily been thinking "I gotta lay this guy out so my boy can get his shot off."

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on intent unless he shows me something different.

Rule says he gets at most two steps, he got that here. The only call here might be to the trainer.