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Mark Padgett Wed Mar 24, 2010 01:52pm

Rules "exercise"
 
This is an “exercise” our local kids rec league gives to our first year refs (usually HS kids) just to see how well they can “get their heads around” a situation. See how many answers you can get.

NF rules. A1 passes the ball to A2 who is standing with both feet behind his team’s three point line. A2 catches the ball cleanly and, without moving his feet, almost immediately shoots the ball into the proper basket for a three point shot. However, the official properly waives the shot off. How many reasons can you think of as to why the official did this.

Here are some our guys have listed:
there was an inadvertent whistle
A2 commits a PC foul on the shot
prior to releasing the ball, someone on team A commits a foul
someone on team A requests a timeout prior to the shot
B2 fouls A2 before A2 started his shooting motion

My personal favorite is that one of our kids (a girl) said that before releasing the shot, A2 yelled a profanity at the official and a technical was called, plus (according to our league rules) A2 was ejected.

There have been more, but I didn’t want to spoil it for you. One none of them ever thought of is that when A2 received the original pass, he was standing in his team’s backcourt and the official called the violation. The problem just says he was behind his team’s three point line so he could be in the backcourt.

More?

riverfalls57 Wed Mar 24, 2010 02:12pm

Prior to releasing the shot the quarter, half, or games ended.

Indianaref Wed Mar 24, 2010 02:14pm

Time expired for the quarter.

youngump Wed Mar 24, 2010 02:17pm

A2 had been replaced with A6 at the last timeout.
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Indianaref Wed Mar 24, 2010 02:25pm

Offensive BI

grunewar Wed Mar 24, 2010 02:27pm

The darn clock operator forgot to start the clock and the R noticed it and blew the play dead, or how about, as Mark (sorry, an unnamed ref) was going by the bench, A's coach said something inappropriate and Mark (slipped up again) whacked him and killed the play!

bas2456 Wed Mar 24, 2010 02:27pm

A1 committed a violation just before the pass, but A2 shot it anyways.

Indianaref Wed Mar 24, 2010 02:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngump (Post 670369)
A2 had been replaced with A6 at the last timeout.

Why would this cancel the shot?

Indianaref Wed Mar 24, 2010 02:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 670372)
The darn clock operator forgot to start the clock and the R noticed it and blew the play dead, or how about, as Mark (sorry, an unnamed ref) was going by the bench, A's coach said something inappropriate and Mark (slipped up again) whacked him and killed the play!

We are supposed to come up with new stuff.

DLH17 Wed Mar 24, 2010 02:50pm

A2 was OOB.

SAJ Wed Mar 24, 2010 03:12pm

The pass from A1 was a throw-in which should have been awarded to Team B.

bob jenkins Wed Mar 24, 2010 03:13pm

6 players on the court.

4 players on the court.

the lights went out.

A2 (or any other A) swings elbows before releasing the shot.

shot hit ceiling / wire before going through the basket.

injured player recognized.

horn for illegal player / number not in book etc.

youngump Wed Mar 24, 2010 04:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 670375)
Why would this cancel the shot?

Because bench personnel aren't allowed to shoot a live ball?
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BillyMac Wed Mar 24, 2010 04:08pm

We're on a mission from God.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 670385)
6 players on the court.
4 players on the court.
the lights went out.
A2 (or any other A) swings elbows before releasing the shot.
shot hit ceiling / wire before going through the basket.
injured player recognized.
horn for illegal player / number not in book etc.

There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! It wasn't my fault, I swear to God!

Camron Rust Wed Mar 24, 2010 05:26pm

  • It was a throwin with 0.3 or less left on the clock.
  • A1 was a FT shooter.
  • The official recognized that A2, who had previously been DQd, somehow was in the game.
  • Another team A player left the court without permission before the shot went in
  • A2 is named Stretch Armstrong and he caught the ball while it was in the cylinder.
  • A2 had yanked his/her own shirt out just before the shot.

deecee Wed Mar 24, 2010 05:48pm

A2 doesnt exist. neither does this so called game that is going on in the op.

AKOFL Wed Mar 24, 2010 07:56pm

that basket would've sent the game into OT and Mark was reffin.:p

just another ref Wed Mar 24, 2010 08:27pm

Cheating?

Nevadaref Wed Mar 24, 2010 08:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKOFL (Post 670444)
that basket would've sent the game into OT and Mark was reffin.:p

Stop the competition. Lock the thread. It's over.

There is no better answer which could be provided to a scenario posed by Padgett.

We have our winner.

AKOFL Wed Mar 24, 2010 09:12pm

[QUOTE=Nevadaref;670452]Stop the competition. Lock the thread. It's over.

There is no better answer which could be provided to a scenario posed by Padgett.

We have our winner.

I would like to thank the Neveda for giving me this prestigious award. I would also like to thank the forum for making this all possible. My parents for raising a smart a$$ and for my wife for putting up with me all these years. I know I'm forgetting someone. O yea.....God. Again thank you all.:rolleyes:

Mark Padgett Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKOFL (Post 670444)
that basket would've sent the game into OT and Mark was reffin.:p

Do you really think I'd even allow a game to be that close that late? C'mon.

BillyMac Thu Mar 25, 2010 06:52am

"Beyonce made the best video, ever."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AKOFL (Post 670458)
"You like me, you really like me!" I would like to thank the Neveda for giving me this prestigious award. I would also like to thank the forum for making this all possible. My parents for raising a smart a$$ and for my wife for putting up with me all these years. I know I'm forgetting someone. O yea.....God. Again thank you all.

Fixed it.

Pantherdreams Thu Mar 25, 2010 08:08am

1 - A2 has a heel or foot out of bounds.

2 - B1 has collapsed and is at immediate risk by A2.

3 - 3 second violation is being called.

4 - Off the ball foul is being called.

5- Table error needs to be corrected (illegal sub, shot clock issue, etc)

6 - A baby has ventured out onto the floor.

7 - Hot mom has said she loves it when you blow you whistle.

8 - Coach for team A has been griping all night that you need to blow your whistle more.

9 - I'm friends with the NBA ref's bookie's and have some solid money on the spread in this one.

10 - I secretly plan everygame which team and kids in particular I'm going to cheat and have it out for A2 so this is an ideal time to give the fans what they came to see.

amusedofficial Sat Mar 27, 2010 04:41pm

Shooter had inbounded the ball and waited out of bounds while screens were set enabling him/her to get to an open spot to receive the pass and take the shot. Shooter hit with technical for "purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after being legally out of bounds."


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