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fullor30 Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:19am
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Originally Posted by DLH17 (Post 668717)
His tirade during the B12 tournament that earned him a TF was rather entertaining. :D
The a&*hole doesn't fall very far from the "tree"

tomegun Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:41am
Hoosier Alert!

Does the General have some black marks on his record? Yes. Does he have questionable programs like those ran by Pitino, Calipari, Frank Martin and others? No. Did he have an injury like Coach K and Roy Williams when his team wasn't doing well? No. Does he have more championships than many other coaches while doing it with far lesser talent? Absolutely!

Back in the day, if I had a kid with marginal talent and discipline - which I would have taken care of at home - I would send him to IU in a heartbeat. The only exception that comes to mind is if he was a big man (John Thompson II/Georgetown).

That concludes my Hoosier rant for today.

26 Year Gap Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:51am
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 668693)
It's a toss up with Calipari and Rick "table for two" Pitino.

Had a brief exchange of words with Pitino that did not go well years ago in a men's clothing store.
He didn't like the black & white suit you selected for him?:D

26 Year Gap Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:55am
Yup
 
A howler monkey....

Jurassic Referee Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 668706)
So you disagree with the author's superlative?
Probably not.

But......

You gotta remember that "sleazy scumbag" and "whiny crybaby" are completely different categories. Calipari might be the King of the sleazy scumbags but Huggins has to be the leader of the goofs that are both scumbags and crybabies. Gonzalez is one of those too. Iow Huggins has to be close in the Lifetime Achievement Award.

LSams Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 668666)
Nothing really new there....

Calipari is one of the Big Three along with Bobby Huggins and Bobby Gonzalez......

It's sad what some schools will do to come up with a winning team. And it's amazing that Seton Hall puts up with Gonzalez when he doesn't really win that much either.
nice call. . Report: Seton Hall Pirates fire Bobby Gonzalez as coach - ESPN

Camron Rust Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:57pm
If standards are going to be consistent there are a few more coaches that should be included.

It is not hard to find equivalent incidents where the treatment is not equivalent.

Coach K had exactly the the same thing happen @ Duke with Corey Magette as happened with Calipari and Camby....yet Duke/K went untouched. Hmmm.

Another program would also be minus 10 championships if there was any consistency. Look up Sam Gilbert. He was part of the biggest racket in all of college basketball and they're always left out of the discussion. And Sam Gilbert's was blatant and widely known, even to the coach. Hmmm.

Judtech Wed Mar 17, 2010 01:44pm
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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 668719)
Hoosier Alert!

Does the General have some black marks on his record? Yes. Does he have questionable programs like those ran by Pitino, Calipari, Frank Martin and others? No. Did he have an injury like Coach K and Roy Williams when his team wasn't doing well? No. Does he have more championships than many other coaches while doing it with far lesser talent? Absolutely!

Back in the day, if I had a kid with marginal talent and discipline - which I would have taken care of at home - I would send him to IU in a heartbeat. The only exception that comes to mind is if he was a big man (John Thompson II/Georgetown).

That concludes my Hoosier rant for today.
I think I have a new man crush!!

Camron Rust Wed Mar 17, 2010 04:25pm
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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 668719)
Does he have questionable programs like those ran by Pitino, Calipari, Frank Martin and others? No.
What exactly was Pitino accused of doing (in the context of basketball, not his affair)? The only thing I can think of is that Pitino took over a UK program already on probation as a result of Eddie Sutton's actions.

Sure, he job hopped a bit, but that hardly translates into questionable programs.

As for Calipari, there has never been any link between him and any wrongdoing. If you're going to tag him with the actions of others, you're probably going to have to toss out half the D1 coaches out there and 10-20 championships (or more)...unless you're going to tell me no other D1 player ever took money from an agent or booster or ever cheated on their SAT....ever.

BBall_Junkie Wed Mar 17, 2010 04:29pm
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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 668719)
Hoosier Alert!

Does the General have some black marks on his record? Yes. Does he have questionable programs like those ran by Pitino, Calipari, Frank Martin and others? No. Did he have an injury like Coach K and Roy Williams when his team wasn't doing well? No. Does he have more championships than many other coaches while doing it with far lesser talent? Absolutely!

Back in the day, if I had a kid with marginal talent and discipline - which I would have taken care of at home - I would send him to IU in a heartbeat. The only exception that comes to mind is if he was a big man (John Thompson II/Georgetown).

That concludes my Hoosier rant for today.
Disagree completely with the bold text. UCLA, Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas and Indiana are the premier basketball programs and Bob Knight had his share of talent. IU has been down in talent lately because Henderson wasnt very good, Sampson was better "is" a cheat and a fraud. Crean is a good hire I think but needs time to shake the stink off what Sampson left behind. In time, because hoops is a religion in Indiana, they will have their share of talent as well.

The rest is debateable...

DLH17 Wed Mar 17, 2010 04:30pm
Martin runs a questionable program at KSU? Just askin'.

shutupneff Wed Mar 17, 2010 09:37pm
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 668716)
Let's not forget this tool

http://www.idsnews.com/news/mfiles/p...2276912407.jpg

Texas Tech head basketball coach Pat Knight was informed by the Big 12 that he was to dress a little more becoming of a division one basketball coach. Knight, who was wearing his signature Red Raider polo when the number one Kansas Jayhawks dispatched Tech in the Big 12 tournament Thursday afternoon.


Kansas coach Bill Self agreed with the Big 12's decision.


"He came up and shook my hand after the game and I thought it was an athletic trainer," Self explained. "Seriously, I was wondering why an athletic trainer was coming up to me. I was wondering if he was going to tape my ankles or something. The only way I found out he was a coach is because he wasn't wearing a fanny pack."


The statement from the Big 12 used language ranging from unbecoming to schleppy when describing Knight's sideline attire.


"We want our head coaches to look the part during the games," a Big 12 compliance official stated. "And a polo is not going to get that done. If he thinks a sweater vest is going to work, he's wrong on that as well. This isn't football and only Jim Tressel can wear something so gay looking. Basketball coaches wear suits on the sidelines, leave the polos for trainers, equipment managers, and cheer coaches."


The Big 12 official offered suggestions for Knight to emulate.
"Rick Pitino is a good model, minus the seedy Italian-ness. I would stay away from the Bruce Pearl look, I don't understand why he wears that orange blazer, his face is orange enough from mystic tans," the official explained.
That can't be a legitimate article, can it? Sure, the really bad stuff was apparently said off the record, but even Self's comments make him sound worse than almost everyone else mentioned in this thread.

Adam Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:10pm
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Originally Posted by shutupneff (Post 668856)
That can't be a legitimate article, can it? Sure, the really bad stuff was apparently said off the record, but even Self's comments make him sound worse than almost everyone else mentioned in this thread.
Reads like satire to me.

budjones05 Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:10am
Nobody has mention Steve Lavin or Blias or any of the nice people at ESPN......Since we are giving out scumbag rewards

fullor30 Thu Mar 18, 2010 07:15am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 668861)
Reads like satire to me.
Apparently it is satire. It's off a blog and his his other blogs are out there. The self comments are the giveaway. That said, 'truth in humor' applies here.


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