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Mark Dexter Tue Sep 10, 2002 06:21pm

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Originally posted by Barry C. Morris
I can't remember what coach is credited with the saying. It was somebody of the ilk of Bear Bryan but he told his players "When you get into the end zone, act like you've been there before."
Don't know how true it is, but I've always heard of this one being attributed to Vince Lombardi.

BTW, didn't see the play, but from the description this seems like the type of play that needs to be called. If the guy was too stupid to wait two seconds to be sure the game was over (and also stupid enough to think that he got the sack when he didn't - you should always pay attention), he deserves the USC.

Jurassic Referee Wed Sep 11, 2002 04:49am

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Originally posted by Camron Rust
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In soccer it IS a tremendous achievement with many games won by a score of 1-0. There are just not that many chances to score in soccer, so the achievment is pretty high.

But, I do think it is a little over done. [/B][/QUOTE]Camron,I don't think that there is a darn thing wrong with the GAME of soccer.A 1-0 game can still be very exciting and well played too,as you stated.It's the histrionics involved in the game that personally drive me nuts.Not only the goal-scoring extravaganzas,but the acting jobs done by players trying to draw a foul or card are completely ridiculous,too.Guys get stretchered off,and all of a sudden a miracle occurs and they come running back on the field.It kinda makes you wonder if Oral Roberts has come back to be their team doctor.Unfortunately,this behavior seems to have become endemic to a lot of pro sports,and seems to be be sifting down to their amateur counterparts.Soccer is certainly no worse than football,basketball or hockey when it comes to the "look at me" syndrome.Baseball seems to be a little more restrained,but you still get multi-millionaires who won't run out a ground ball(hello,Manny!).It has certainly added another dimension to games,that we,as officials,must be aware of.

Then again.maybe I'm just getting grumpy in my old age.

End of another rant!:D

ScottParks Wed Sep 11, 2002 07:32am

Palm Pilot
 
Which style or model of Palm (or similar) are recommended. If I were to use it just to track schedules and the like I would hope it wouldn't be very expensive!

Any recommendations?

Brian Watson Wed Sep 11, 2002 08:05am

Re: Palm Pilot
 
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Originally posted by ScottParks
Which style or model of Palm (or similar) are recommended. If I were to use it just to track schedules and the like I would hope it wouldn't be very expensive!

Any recommendations?


I use the visor NEO.

It was cheap $150, it can be expanded, and serves its purpose. And, god forbid, if I lose it or break it, I won't be out that much.

ChuckElias Wed Sep 11, 2002 08:28am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
It kinda makes you wonder if Oral Roberts has come back to be their team doctor.
Has Oral Roberts left us? I didn't know that. Unfortunately, I lost all respect for the man when he told his congregation (and TV viewers) that God would kill him if he couldn't raise however many million dollars he was looking for.

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but you still get multi-millionaires who won't run out a ground ball(hello,Manny!).
You talkin' smack about Manny Ramirez?!? Manny plays hard, he does run out ground balls, he doesn't dog it on defense (like another Red Sox backup left fielder) and he even agreed to play left field against his preferences. Admittedly, he didn't agree right away and the Sox did play him in right for a while last season. But he's been the model of "team spirit", in my opinion, since coming to the Sox. Yeah, he's obscenely overpaid, but that's not his fault. Maybe you just saw him on a bad day when he was sore or something.

Of course, if you're not talking about Manny Ramirez, then please excuse my rant. :)

Chuck

ChuckElias Wed Sep 11, 2002 08:33am

Re: Palm Pilot
 
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Originally posted by ScottParks
Which style or model of Palm (or similar) are recommended.
I use the Palm m105. It was $149, has 8 mb of memory, which is more than enough for me. It is not, however, expandable.

If you really only want to type in your assignments, you can get real cheap handhelds at Radio Shack or KMart. They're like $40, but only contain a datebook (and maybe an address book) and have very little memory.

Chuck

Jurassic Referee Wed Sep 11, 2002 10:11am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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You talkin' smack about Manny Ramirez?!? Manny plays hard, he does run out ground balls, he doesn't dog it on defense (like another Red Sox backup left fielder) and he even agreed to play left field against his preferences. [/B][/QUOTE]Uh,Chuck,don't they have newspapers and television in your area?:D

Yes,that would be the same Manny Ramirez that got fined yesterday by the Bosox for not even taking one step to first base after hitting a come-backer to the pitcher on Monday.The same guy that really should have the nickname "Trot" for the way he goes after fly balls.The same Manny that has routinely turned doubles into singles this year.

Check out this morning's Boston Globe on line.There's a whole bunch of "Manny" stories in there,by several different columnists.None of them are exactly what you would call "complimentary".I know that the Boston press can be critical,but this guy deserves everything he gets.

He's a dog,Chuck,imo.


Dan_ref Wed Sep 11, 2002 10:26am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee


He's a dog,Chuck,imo.


What the heck is that supposed to mean?

(Posted by Woody, using Dan's id)

ChuckElias Wed Sep 11, 2002 11:02am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Yes,that would be the same Manny Ramirez that got fined yesterday by the Bosox for not even taking one step to first base after hitting a come-backer to the pitcher on Monday.
I have to admit that I didn't see that, or even hear of it. But I still think that's unusual. As far as trotting in the outfield, he's obviously not the fastest guy you could put out there, but I've never seen him loaf on a ball that he "should've" gotten to.

And maybe it's just me, but I like the guy. He seems personable and he seems to be a positive in the dugout (with the obvious exception of his comments during the Williams/Duquette/Kerrigan fiasco last year, but who can blame him for that?).

I would guess that I see a lot more of Manny's games than you do, and I would disagree strongly that he "routinely" turns doubles into singles. I've never heard anybody make that criticism of him before.

I'll check out the Globe piece, but I think you've way overstated Manny's downside. Again, just my biased opinion. (But you're wrong!! :) )

Chuck

Jurassic Referee Wed Sep 11, 2002 11:11am

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee


He's a dog,Chuck,imo.


What the heck is that supposed to mean?

(Posted by Woody, using Dan's id)

Whoops!!

Sorry,Young Woody.

I really don't want to get into that kind of "lack of testicular fortitude" thing.BTW,are you still kinda placing "Dan" and "Pearl Harbor" in the same category in your mind?

I'll e-mail you on ways to get even with him.

Your friend,Old Woody.

Jurassic Referee Wed Sep 11, 2002 11:26am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
I would guess that I see a lot more of Manny's games than you do, and I would disagree strongly that he "routinely" turns doubles into singles. I've never heard anybody make that criticism of him before.

I'll check out the Globe piece, but I think you've way overstated Manny's downside. Again, just my biased opinion. (But you're wrong!! :) )

Chuck [/B]
Actually,between being retired,having plenty of free time(or maybe no life),and being the proud possessor of a pirate dish,as well as being an accomplished surfer,I think I have seen some of just about every Bosox game this year.I'm also into self-flagellation,but that's another story.I also read the Globe,among other papers, every morning.Seems to me a whole lot of people in New England have got the same impression of Manny as I do.Read all of today's Manny stories-there's more than one on him.Then tell me what you think.:D


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