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just another ref Thu Mar 11, 2010 02:24pm

Almost dunk
 
Saw a replay just now. A guy from Memphis, I think, dunked the ball, ball hit the dunker's own head and bounced out.

No basket.:o

Indianaref Thu Mar 11, 2010 03:23pm

Interesting play from a year ago, YouTube - 12 Arizona vs. 5 Utah Highlights, Arizona-Utah game, check it out at about the 1:30 mark. Nobody knew what to do. Awkward moment for officials who looked lost.

Nevadaref Thu Mar 11, 2010 03:27pm

Very simple--offensive BI. Blow whistle and award possession to the opposing team at an OOB spot on the end line.

Indianaref Thu Mar 11, 2010 03:33pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 667779)
Very simple--offensive BI. Blow whistle and award possession to the opposing team at an OOB spot on the end line.

Had not thought about that, I agree, it meets the def of BI.

bbcof83 Thu Mar 11, 2010 04:20pm

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Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 667775)
Interesting play from a year ago, YouTube - 12 Arizona vs. 5 Utah Highlights, Arizona-Utah game, check it out at about the 1:30 mark. Nobody knew what to do. Awkward moment for officials who looked lost.

So what was the result of this one? Looks like the officials gave the ball to white even though they ended up with the ball and traveled. Hmm... Less than 30 seconds in a blow out, I can see how this would catch a crew by surprise.

APG Thu Mar 11, 2010 04:50pm

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Originally Posted by bbcof83 (Post 667794)
So what was the result of this one? Looks like the officials gave the ball to white even though they ended up with the ball and traveled. Hmm... Less than 30 seconds in a blow out, I can see how this would catch a crew by surprise.

My guess would be a very delayed basket interference call.

commcoach Thu Mar 11, 2010 05:20pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 667779)
Very simple--offensive BI. Blow whistle and award possession to the opposing team at an OOB spot on the end line.

So you get a ball in the face, no basket, AND lose possession?? That sucks

Adam Thu Mar 11, 2010 05:23pm

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Originally Posted by commcoach (Post 667805)
So you get a ball in the face, no basket, AND lose possession?? That sucks

Don't forget the worst part:
No one to blame.

Judtech Thu Mar 11, 2010 05:33pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 667807)
Don't forget the worst part:
No one to blame.

and lose by 2

Zoochy Thu Mar 11, 2010 06:43pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 667764)
Saw a replay just now. A guy from Memphis, I think, dunked the ball, ball hit the dunker's own head and bounced out.

No basket.:o

Ball never hits the player. The ball gets stuck in the net and the ball comes back out when the rim retracts back. Just like the announcers says "Play on"

AKOFL Thu Mar 11, 2010 07:00pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 667779)
Very simple--offensive BI. Blow whistle and award possession to the opposing team at an OOB spot on the end line.

could I get your though prosses on this? Does it matter if his head is still in the net or not when it contacts the ball. what exactly has to happen for you to call this BI or not? thanks Nevada.

Camron Rust Thu Mar 11, 2010 07:46pm

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Originally Posted by AKOFL (Post 667838)
could I get your though prosses on this? Does it matter if his head is still in the net or not when it contacts the ball. what exactly has to happen for you to call this BI or not? thanks Nevada.

As described, the ball was in contact with player while the ball was in the basket. That's BI.

Adam Thu Mar 11, 2010 07:57pm

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Originally Posted by AKOFL (Post 667838)
could I get your though prosses on this? Does it matter if his head is still in the net or not when it contacts the ball. what exactly has to happen for you to call this BI or not? thanks Nevada.

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 667843)
As described, the ball was in contact with player while the ball was in the basket. That's BI.

Yep, on the other hand; if the ball had gone all the way through the net before contacting the player, it would be nothing even if it bounced back up through the rim. In that case, the basket would count and the game would continue as normal.

bmeansdfw Fri Mar 12, 2010 02:00am

Sorry, but if any of you guys thinks that BI is the right call--not according to the textbook, but in reality--then you're all nuts.

Here's why.

If you watched the Big 12 tourney this week, you may have noticed that they installed new--and very stiff--nets. At least a dozen times, a ball came to rest in the bottom of the net. By your definition of BI, if an offensive player bumps the ball out of the net, it is offensive BI and the basket would be disallowed; however, if the defensive player does the same thing (to help out, he thinks), there is no call because the scorer and everyone else thinks the basket is good.

I'm just saying that the rim and plane should be determinate of a made basket, not the net--otherwise, we would need standard length nets installed on every goal to make sure the proverbial playing field was level across the board.

APG Fri Mar 12, 2010 02:32am

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Originally Posted by bmeansdfw (Post 667907)
Sorry, but if any of you guys thinks that BI is the right call--not according to the textbook, but in reality--then you're all nuts.

Here's why.

If you watched the Big 12 tourney this week, you may have noticed that they installed new--and very stiff--nets. At least a dozen times, a ball came to rest in the bottom of the net. By your definition of BI, if an offensive player bumps the ball out of the net, it is offensive BI and the basket would be disallowed; however, if the defensive player does the same thing (to help out, he thinks), there is no call because the scorer and everyone else thinks the basket is good.

I'm just saying that the rim and plane should be determinate of a made basket, not the net--otherwise, we would need standard length nets installed on every goal to make sure the proverbial playing field was level across the board.

Net lengths already have standard lengths

NCAA:
Rule 1, Section 13. Baskets—Size, Material
Art. 1. Each basket shall consist of a single metal ring, 18 inches inside diameter, its flange and braces, and a white-cord, 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.


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