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Fan10 Mon Mar 08, 2010 01:11am

Mich St/Michigan Shot Clock Violation
 
Did anyone see the Michigan State/Michigan game on CBS today? Just before the half, Michigan was inbounding right at half court with one second on the shot clock. On the inbounds pass, a Mich State player deflected the ball, and the ball shot high into the air. The shot clock (which was on the screen and you could see it above the goal on replays that CBS showed) clearly hit 0 while the ball was in the air. As it came down, the Mich State player caught it on a breakway, took it all the way to the hole, and scored a 3 point play.

The Michigan coaches claimed there should have been a shot clock violation since the Mich State player did not possess it when the clock reached 0. The officials went to the monitor, but the call stood.

Am I missing something? You could cleary see on replay the ball still in the air with the clock showing 0.

Nevadaref Mon Mar 08, 2010 02:40am

Was there a horn prior to the Michigan State player obtaining possession?

If not, then the play was handled correctly.

RULE 2 Officials and Their Duties
Section 11. Duties of Shot-Clock Operator
Art. 9. Sound the shot-clock horn at the expiration of the shot-clock period.
This shot-clock horn shall not stop play unless recognized by an official’s
whistle. When the shot clock indicates zeros but the shot-clock horn has
not sounded, the shot-clock time has not expired.

Fan10 Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:12am

Not sure if a horn went off or not.

tjones1 Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:18am

I was watching this game.

I thought it was a violation watching it live. However, I'm not sure, but when they went to review it I think the only thing they could correct is if the shot clock malfunctioned. I don't think they could have reversed the call and taken the foul called back unless it malfunctioned.

Nevadaref Wed Mar 10, 2010 03:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 667101)
I was watching this game.

I thought it was a violation watching it live. However, I'm not sure, but when they went to review it I think the only thing they could correct is if the shot clock malfunctioned. I don't think they could have reversed the call and taken the foul called back unless it malfunctioned.

They could do those things, if the shot clock operator made an error by resetting the device prior to the Michigan State player gaining possession of the ball. There is an NCAA A.R. which says exactly that. I don't know if that was the case in this situation because I cannot find any video of the play. The game is not in the ESPN360 archives.

A.R. 138. The time on the game clock is 15:30 and the shot clock reads
0:30 for men and 0:25 for women. A1 shoots the ball with five
seconds on the shot clock and does not hit the ring or flange.
The shot-clock operator, by mistake, resets the shot clock. No
one notices the mistake by the shot-clock operator at this time.
The game clock gets to 14:55 for men and 15:00 for women
and B2 commits a foul against A2. Now the officials get together
and realize the shot-clock operator’s mistake

RULING: When the officials have definite information relative to the
shot-clock operator’s mistake, it is permissible to rectify that mistake.
In this case, since the officials have definite information relative to
the time involved, they shall put five seconds back on the game clock,
cancel the foul and award the ball to Team B at a designated spot
nearest to where the ball became dead for the shot-clock violation.
(Rule 5-11.4)

tjones1 Wed Mar 10, 2010 03:44pm

Thanks Nevada.

In this situation (OP), the shot clock wasn't reset. I think they went to review it to see if the clock hung up or something.

Am I correct in saying that they could not have went back and called a violation unless there was a shot-clock operator’s mistake or clock malfunction (i.e. froze, etc.)?

BTW, you have a PM Nevada.


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