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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 10:31pm
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I think it is infinitely better if the call belongs to one official or the other. This eliminates, the whole "I thought he had it," scenario. That being said, whoever has the primary responsibility is free to ask for help if needed. Looks like that was the case here. I think the guy relaxed on the missed shot and was totally surprised by the second attempt. From where I'm sitting, this was good and was not even close.
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 10:59pm
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From where I'm sitting, this was good and was not even close.
There is no question that it was good.

I was able to pause the video at a time when the backboard lights were not on, but the ball was high in the air on the putback attempt. (:31 seconds on the video clip)

The ball is level with the top of the square when the lights come on.
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 11:39pm
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There is no question that it was good.

I was able to pause the video at a time when the backboard lights were not on, but the ball was high in the air on the putback attempt. (:31 seconds on the video clip)

The ball is level with the top of the square when the lights come on.
Nv,

Is a last second shot determined by horn or by the lights on a backboard? I don't do HS anymore so please let me know if this has changed. Thanks.
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 11:41pm
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Nv,

Is a last second shot determined by horn or by the lights on a backboard? I don't do HS anymore so please let me know if this has changed. Thanks.
One of the rule changes this year was allowing the light to be used this year, and I believe we use that when available.

Rule 5-6-2...Each quarter or extra period ends when the signal illuminates or sounds indicating time has expired, as in 1-14.

Rule 1-14 Red/LED Light, Audible Signal
A red light behind each backboard or an LED light on each backboard is permitted to signal that time has expired for a quarter or extra period. In facilities without a red light behind or an LED light on each backboard, the audible timer's signal shall indicate that time has expired.

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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 11:43pm
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One of the rule changes this year was allowing the light to be used this year, and I believe we use that when available.
Okay, thanks for clarifying.
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 02:57am
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Yeah, it was a rule change this season. When there are lights on the backboard they take priority for indicating the expiration of time.

So in this particular video clip the officials should have been looking for the illumination of the red lights.


COMMENTS ON THE 2009-10 RULES REVISIONS

RED/LED LIGHT PERMITTED TO END QUARTER/EXTRA PERIOD (1-14; 5-
6-2): When a red light behind the backboard or an LED light on the backboard is
present, it is permitted to signal the expiration of time in the quarter or extra period. If
no red/LED light is present, the audible timer’s signal will continue to signal the
expiration of time. The change permits equipment currently found in some facilities to
be utilized rather than ignored. All other end-of-period rules remain intact. During their
pregame responsibilities, game officials should determine if red/LED lights are present
in order to adjudicate end-of-period situations properly.
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 05:01am
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Call has to belong to one official or the other- Some mechanics like opposite trail... some mechanics like trail (with it going to C under certain time frame... NBA)

In this play both C and L should have helped out. L should have been close to play and can see light on the board--- C looking back sees ball and light..

Whoops! on this call
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 08:49am
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Yeah, it was a rule change this season. When there are lights on the backboard they take priority for indicating the expiration of time.

So in this particular video clip the officials should have been looking for the illumination of the red lights.


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This is something I did a poor job pre-gaming for this season. Need to remember next season to find out each game if there is a red light or not so we are properly prepared.
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