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Check out the third video down on this link (Oak Ridge vs. Cy-Woods) paying particular attention to the last play of the game. We talk about offering information to partners if we are 100% sure they kicked it on OOB plays or Timing plays. There is no way this official could have been 100% sure... Do you see why???? WOW.

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Wow. Why would the C opposite (who correctly waved this off) ever allow someone to come in and talk him into this? Hell, the shot was in his primary, as well. Wow.

Edit: I see upon looking at this again that it was a fan behind the C waving and not the C opposite. He seemed to be doing nothing. The T tableside was waving it off. Unless they're using some different mechanic I don't know, the C should've been all over that. Just terrible.

Rich...Opposite table (in this case it is the C) has the call around these parts just like the mechanics manual says.

I'm confused, I never saw the C do anything. It looks like the T is waving it off, too.

Like I said, I mistakenly thought the C was waving it off and it was actually a fan behind him waving. The C did nothing. And he was clearly opposite the table. He didn't count it or wave it off, which tells me he had no awareness of the clock at all.

Which official? I saw the Trail tableside wave his arms like an NFL official stopping the clock. I saw the C and L do nothing. Video doesn't show who had the information to count the basket but it appears the HC is upset with the Trail.

Obviously the C came in later and convince the T that the shot was good :eek:. T should never have given the signal in the first place, however, he was right..

At the 1:05 mark, it looks like the L makes some traveling motion. Not sure what he's doing there...


At the end:

C did nothing. Like Snaq, it looks like T is waving it off; however, I assume he is signaling the end of the game - maybe not.

Sorry, I pulled up your quote, watched the video, then posted my response. I thought I was missing something, so it took me a while to watch the video.

That's where I am with this too. That coach knew it too...he moved on from the trail to the C almost immediately.

edit: the tape was split. the coach reacted to the trail that made the initial call waving off the shot. id've been p.o.'d too

I have to agree with Rich after watching it again. It certainly looks like C was caught completely off guard with the horn.

They called basket interference on the first shot :D

What? :confused:

From what little we can see, it looks like T waves it off, sees C has more information, and they get together. L seems to be the one talking to the losing coach at the end.

Agreed...........what's the lead's mechanic after player dunks in middle of clip?

My interp....the Trail came in calling basket interference....that's who the HC was yelling at when the clip ended.

At first I thought there was no way this was what happened, but you might be right BNR. Although from the camera's angle it looks like the first defender makes a clean block then the 2nd defender comes in and hits the net/rim. From the T's angle perhaps it looks like he took the ball off the cylinder.

If this is what he called, he REALLY needs to charge in and sell this call. Still looks like the wrong call to me. Anyone else see this being a possibility?

That would be as bad a call as saying the shot was in time. And I do not think I would be "waving off" on a call that puts points on the board.

I think the call is definitely related to the clock and the C called nothing, the T had it right, and somehow, it ended up getting changed.

I just through that out there as a possibility. Until someone from the Houston area (Splute/Welpe???) gives us some insight all of us here are basically guessing in the dark as to what the actual ruling on the court was.

So my theory is just as good as anyone else's. :cool::D

Here is a story on it, which does not really shed much light on it OR wins at the buzzer > Conroe Courier > Sports Archives > Houston Community Newspapers Online - News Around Town

Maybe the signal we see is a local one for "No Overtime":D

In Texas, like everywhere else, the opposite C has the clock. In the video, he was off of the video when the basket was made so I don't know what or if he signaled at the horn.

My guess is that C scored the basket, T made a signal when it wasn't his to make, and C stuck to his guns, made the call his again, and kicked it big time.

Wow! Good game but I have a question-Why didn't the officials in this game go to the timer for help?

4. If a quarter or extra period ends and:
a. The timer has been unable to make an official hear the signal,
the timer must immediately notify the official.
b. The timing signal fails or is not heard by an official, the timer
must be prepared to advise the referee as to whether the ball
was in flight when time expired, or whether a foul occurred
before or after the period had ended.
c. The timing signal is not heard by the officials, testimony of the
timer may determine whether a score shall count or a foul shall
be charged, unless the referee has information which would
alter the situation

If the table is made up of neutral individuals whose first obligation is the proper administration of a game then they could have helped to see that the proper call was made!

The officials heard the horn and made the call. This was not a situation where the signal was not heard and the officials didn't know if the try was in flight when time actually expired.

I would like to hear the replay without the play by play. Nice site by the way with all the videos.
But yeah the players really reacted like it was good even though it clearly was not. Was the horn not loud enough? Sorry fellow refs but from the OUTSIDE it looks like they messed up.

thanks for that post SCalScoreKeeper. I'll keep that in mind. Another voice would have helped.
check out the next vid. looks like that 23 kid is a div. 1 talent

No, this is not an instance in which the timer could be consulted. Cobra has it right.