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Reach No Reach
Three times last night, defender, B1, guarding A1, as A1 would get a step on B1, B1 would reach around A1 and hit the ball forward, he made no contact with A1. This resulted in two turnovers. I called no fouls on these three attempts. A's coach yelling, reach reach...that's a foul! I did call a foul on B1 at another time when he did bump A1 and hit is forearm as he tried to reach around and hit the ball.
I have seen this called a foul many times. It is almost an automatic foul. If I don't see the contact then I should not call a foul, correct? Is there a reason why some officials call this everytime? B1 made a great defensive play, he took advantage of his quickness. Am I not seeing something right here? |
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2) They are alums of the offensive team. (Based on the description, you are calling it correctly.) |
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My Two Cents ...
Reaching in is not a foul. There must be contact to have a foul. The mere act of reaching in, by itself, is nothing. If contact does occur, it’s either a holding foul or an illegal use of hands foul.
Also: Ball-Handler / Hand-Checking Places both hands on a ball-handler, it is a foul. Continuously places a hand on the ball-handler, it is a foul. Continuously jabs a hand or forearm on a ball-handler, it is a foul. Remember RSBQ. If the dribbler’s Rhythm, Speed, Balance, or Quickness are affected, we should have a hand-checking foul. |
Thanks all
Appreciate the feedback -good insight - thanks!
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Rule 4-24-2: It is legal use of hands to reach to block or slap the ball controlled by a dribbler or a player throwing for goal or a player holding it and accidentally hitting the hand of the opponent when it is in contact with the ball. |
Back in the day
FWIW, back when and where I played, before I had ever read a rulebook, it was just understood that a reach around the dribbler from behind would almost always be called a foul, regardless of contact. I distinctly remember several officials, not just a couple, having told teammates, coaches or myself that "they can't see everything (2 man crews) and that if you reach around it will be assumed that a foul occurred." Players and coaches accepted and adjusted accordingly. This was 15 years ago in an era where play was a lot less physical.
My guess is that this idea or "intepretation" was taught to officials in some parts of the country, or maybe just my part of the state I grew up in, in the past. And some ideas, even bad ones, never completely die out. Not saying I agree, just that I understand the call that the original poster is referring to. |
When I started playing (more than 15 years ago), I was taught that reaching was dangerous because it could get called. I wasn't taught that it was a foul, but only that it might get called a foul if it looked bad.
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