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Old Wed Feb 17, 2010, 10:56pm
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If you have to slow things down that much to see if there is a violation, then they are not good calls to make.
I'm not really sure what you mean, Rut. I can't speak for whomever made the video but it seems he slowed it down to highlight the violations rather than to merely see them. Don't you think slowing down the video helps a Ref to be able to identify this type of violation especially in light of the fact that these kinds of violations were Points of Emphasis?

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Old Wed Feb 17, 2010, 11:01pm
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only the last play was traveling....
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Old Wed Feb 17, 2010, 11:12pm
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I'm not really sure what you mean, Rut. I can't speak for whomever made the video but it seems he slowed it down to highlight the violations rather than to merely see them. Don't you think slowing down the video helps a Ref to be able to identify this type of violation especially in light of the fact that these kinds of violations were Points of Emphasis?

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I agree with Jeff here. The only one that looked like a violation was the last one. A dribble was staring as the pivot feet moved on the others. The ball does not have to touch the floor, just the dribble has to start.

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Old Wed Feb 17, 2010, 11:34pm
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Again, it wasn't my video, but weren't those fairly clear examples of lifting the pivot foot prior to releasing the ball?
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Old Wed Feb 17, 2010, 11:52pm
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If you want to watch rules and plays watch these for a while; Dartfish.tv - Channel NFHS Basketball Officials Education Channel
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Old Thu Feb 18, 2010, 12:43pm
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If you want to watch rules and plays watch these for a while; Dartfish.tv - Channel NFHS Basketball Officials Education Channel
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Old Thu Feb 18, 2010, 12:49am
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Again, it wasn't my video, but weren't those fairly clear examples of lifting the pivot foot prior to releasing the ball?
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Old Thu Feb 18, 2010, 01:26am
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Again, it wasn't my video, but weren't those fairly clear examples of lifting the pivot foot prior to releasing the ball?
no they were not clear examples. As a rule of thumb if you have to slow down a video that much to see a very close to borderline call then its not a good call to make (just like Rut said earlier).

I have been told many times that not to call the borderline travels and stick with the very obvious ones. Why? Because at the mens level sometimes things happen so fast we dont get to go to video for each call. So who cares about these super slow motion examples of travelling.
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Old Thu Feb 18, 2010, 08:07am
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I don't have a travel on the very first one but I don't have a clear enough line on when the ball leaves his hand.

The next one looks really bad once you slow it down, but at game speed if you are calling that one then you will be blowing a lot of stuff in a high school game if you intend on being consistent.

The last two are a little easier to call based on the landing footowork and then take off footwork. In both cases there is a lot of changing pivot foot and slow release of the ball going on.

But again if you plan on calling all these all night, my guess is in most high school age games and below you'll be calling a travel every 2 or 3 possesions on someone.
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