Have you seen these slow motion examples of traveling?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Doesn't it have to be released? I haven't seen the video, but this statement made me think I might have the rule wrong.

I bet that "released" is what Rich had in mind that would allow the ball to "start to the floor."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I bet that "released" is what Rich had in mind that would allow the ball to "start to the floor."

I figured as much. Maybe I should shut up and watch the video.

[Adam]

I have travels on them all, but it's apparently just me. To me, they all lift their pivot foot before the ball is released for the dribble. The only difference with the last one is that he actually puts the pivot foot back down before releasing the dribble.

[Pantherdreams]

After slo mo video replay they are all ovbiously. Travels.

At game speed I'm not sure I pick up on 1 or 2. Though if I do my guess is that they and the rest of the team are going to be travelling if I call them.

3/4 there are so many footwork issues with changing pivot feet after a 1-2 stop, back foot lifting, pivot foot hoops . .. travels galore in each of these. Again though I'm not privy to the level of footwork in the rest of the game so I wait to see if I need to call everybody or just him before the whistle blows.

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Even slowed down, I only have a travel on the last one. The ball only needs to start to the floor before the pivot foot is lifted. I think that's satisfied well enough on the others. At real speed (where we work) these don't look even close to being traveling violations.

Agree,
I watched this 3 times and thought I had lost my mind because I only could really see the last one as a travel.

[SAJ]

You'd have traveling violations everytime down the floor if you're calling all of these.

[Paul LeBoutillier]

Thanks for all the great comments. And I agree, if slow-mo video is REQUIRED to make the call it's probably not going to be called in real time. Having said that, it looks to my eyes that each one is a travel in the technical sense of the definition. But as someone else said, I might not be able to detect it otherwise.

[Drizzle]

In real time, I'm only calling a travel on the last one. I agree with most of y'all, if it's borderline I'm probably not going to call it, although I have been especially concentrating lately on doing a better job of identifying travelling.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by Drizzle

... although I have been especially concentrating lately on doing a better job of identifying travelling.

all you really need to identify is the pivot foot