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CDurham Mon Feb 08, 2010 01:20pm

Double Dribble?
 
Had this the other night. A1 is thrown a pass and bats the ball to the ground and picks it up. He then dribbles again. I called a Double Dribble. Is this correct?

Thanks

just another ref Mon Feb 08, 2010 01:23pm

Did he deliberately push the ball to the floor the first time, or did he not handle the pass cleanly? Judgment call.

CDurham Mon Feb 08, 2010 01:33pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 659503)
Did he deliberately push the ball to the floor the first time, or did he not handle the pass cleanly? Judgment call.

It was like one of those bats thats made when your in a fast break and the ball is thrown to you and you bat it in front of yourself and then dribble in for a layup.

I ruled it as deliberate, but wasn't sure about the "one bat" to the floor as a dribble.

Adam Mon Feb 08, 2010 01:58pm

I had a similar play over the weekend. In my judgment, she controlled the pass with a single dribble, then gathered it before dribbling again. I felt weird making the call simply because it was so far away. I was T in a 2 whislte game, and she was in my area on the far sideline; outside the arc and about 3 or 4 feet above the FT line extended.

It was a reminder to get into the middle of the court as T.

bob jenkins Mon Feb 08, 2010 02:58pm

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Originally Posted by CDurham (Post 659509)
It was like one of those bats thats made when your in a fast break and the ball is thrown to you and you bat it in front of yourself and then dribble in for a layup.

I ruled it as deliberate, but wasn't sure about the "one bat" to the floor as a dribble.

If that's what you judged, you got it right, but 96.475% of the time, the first contact isn't a dribble.

Jurassic Referee Mon Feb 08, 2010 03:07pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 659555)
If that's what you judged, you got it right, but <font color = red>96.475% of the time</font>, the first contact isn't a dribble.

Agree....at least 96.475% of the time it's just knocking the pass to the floor without establishing player control while doing so. Same concept as tipping the ball to yourself on a rebound.

CDurham Mon Feb 08, 2010 03:50pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 659558)
Agree....at least 96.475% of the time it's just knocking the pass to the floor without establishing player control while doing so. Same concept as tipping the ball to yourself on a rebound.

That why I was a little skeptical about the call. When I played I considered the bat a dribble and didn't dribble a second time. This one was like I said he was thrown a pass and he batted it to the floor then picked the ball up and started a dribble. He handled the bat well and stayed in balance, it wasn't one of those bat and run after it scenerios

Adam Mon Feb 08, 2010 03:52pm

While I've called it this year, it's the only time I ever remember calling it and was more instinctual. Even though it looked controlled to me, and "felt" like a dribble, I'd rather have that one back.

CDurham Mon Feb 08, 2010 03:57pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 659599)
While I've called it this year, it's the only time I ever remember calling it and was more instinctual. Even though it looked controlled to me, and "felt" like a dribble, I'd rather have that one back.

I definately agree it is one of those "iffy" calls.

Mark Padgett Mon Feb 08, 2010 04:12pm

I have no idea what this means, but it seemed to fit into this thread about bats and double dribbles. :confused:

http://blogs.babycenter.com/celebrit...2009/03/w2.jpg

DLH17 Mon Feb 08, 2010 04:27pm

you don't have kids or grandkids, huh? :rolleyes:

Mark Padgett Mon Feb 08, 2010 04:32pm

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Originally Posted by DLH17 (Post 659613)
you don't have kids or grandkids, huh? :rolleyes:

I have both, but I still don't know the significance of the bat on the bib. Yeah, I know he's "dribbling" out of both nostrils - hence the "double dribble", but why a bat? Unless....it anticipated this thread. Yeah - that's it.

BillyMac Mon Feb 08, 2010 06:35pm

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." (Mark Twain)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 659555)
96.475% of the time, the first contact isn't a dribble.

Let's see your raw data. Is this a mean, or a median? What's the standard deviation? Are sure that this is accurate to five significant digits?

mj Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:20pm

I see this one called a double dribble all the time and it's not. In fact, alot of times when this happens coaches are yelling "dead, dead, dead" and it's probably because in their last game it was called a double dribble.


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