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Refsmitty Fri Feb 05, 2010 09:35am

Proper mechanic 2 person
 
Partner and I challenged each other last night in a debate. As the trail when administering FTs (2 shots), we stand just above line extended. I do not raise hand to chop after initial FT, he does. My reasoning is that there is 2 shots and I am not going to chop for the clock to start after the 1st throw. Parter claims the proper way is to raise hand after 1st throw, and then to signal one more throw.

Feedback please - taco dinner riding on the proper way.:p

Smitty Fri Feb 05, 2010 09:37am

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Originally Posted by Refsmitty (Post 658717)
Partner and I challenged each other last night in a debate. As the trail when administering FTs (2 shots), we stand just above line extended. I do not raise hand to chop after initial FT, he does. My reasoning is that there is 2 shots and I am not going to chop for the clock to start after the 1st throw. Parter claims the proper way is to raise hand after 1st throw, and then to signal one more throw.

Feedback please - taco dinner riding on the proper way.:p

On first of 2 shots, as trail, I'm doing nothing with my arm as shot goes up. Only on 2nd of 2. After first shot, my arm is out sideways indicating 1 shot with my finger, until the lead bounces the ball to the shooter, then I drop the hand and start counting. Enjoy the taco dinner. :)

Indianaref Fri Feb 05, 2010 09:41am

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Originally Posted by smitty (Post 658719)
on first of 2 shots, as trail, i'm doing nothing with my arm as shot goes up. Only on 2nd of 2. After first shot, my arm is out sideways indicating 1 shot with my finger, until the lead bounces the ball to the shooter, then i drop the hand and start counting. Enjoy the taco dinner. :)


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Scratch85 Fri Feb 05, 2010 09:55am

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Originally Posted by Refsmitty (Post 658717)
Partner and I challenged each other last night in a debate. As the trail when administering FTs (2 shots), we stand just above line extended. I do not raise hand to chop after initial FT, he does. My reasoning is that there is 2 shots and I am not going to chop for the clock to start after the 1st throw. Parter claims the proper way is to raise hand after 1st throw, and then to signal one more throw.

Feedback please - taco dinner riding on the proper way.:p

An evaluator caught me on this last year. I was told, "do not raise your hand on the first throw."

SAJ Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:19am

Why would he raise his hand? He's not starting the clock. You win.

KJUmp Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:21am

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Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 658720)
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Same here.

Scratch85 Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:27am

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Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 658743)
Why would he raise his hand?

Before being corrected, my (erroneous) reasoning wasn't to chop time but to prevent time from starting. As in the raised hand to prevent play from starting. Of course, it was wrong. :o

mbyron Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:42am

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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 658748)
Before being corrected, my (erroneous) reasoning wasn't to chop time but to prevent time from starting. As in the raised hand to prevent play from starting. Of course, it was wrong. :o

Bad reasoning. The clock doesn't start until we signal it to start. No signal, no start.

We have no signal to prevent the clock from starting, as if it started by default.

DLH17 Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:49am

Everyone I see working upper level games in the KS area raise the hand on the first try. Often times, there is a sub, so the official checks the table and if subs, already has the hand up to communicate this to the administering official.

I will say, though, that I've never had an evaluator tell me what to do one way or the other - yet.

The replies here make a lot of sense, though. I'll have to check into this with some vets in the area.


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