How long for a held ball?
I've seen some quick whistles, then some that aren't whistled at all.
My question is, is there a specific amount of time you wait on a held ball to see if one player can gain control? |
Probably No an Exact Time/Answer
Rule 4, Section 25 A held ball occurs when:
ART. 1 . . . Opponents have their hands so firmly on the ball that control cannot be obtained without undue roughness. ART. 2 . . . An opponent places his/her hand(s) on the ball and prevents an airborne player from throwing the ball or releasing it on a try. I give it a good look, maybe hold my whistle a split second to see if someone will gain control, and then put air in the whistle and move toward the situation quickly. I definitely want to get it, and get there, before it gets rough and the elbows and arms fly. |
Ideally, I wait to see if the ball is stuck. If neither player can free it without "undue roughness," I hit the whistle.
The fact is, sometimes I find myself hitting whistle sooner than I'd like. Sometimes I wait too long. |
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If play has been "rough" in the game, is it considered good mechanics to be a bit quicker with the whistle in a held ball situation? Not looking to impose my own interp. of 4.25.1 here...just a game management question. |
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Nip it in the bud before a scrum gets out of hand. If the game is a bit "chippy," you might put air in your whislte earlier to prevent "issues" from developing. |
I agree with grune. The same goes with contact that seems to be borderline incidental. If the game is getting chippy, I might be more inclined to call the borderline stuff.
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grune/Snags.....thanks.
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I tend to hold my whistle a little longer during Gjv, they sometimes can get the ball away from opponent without us having to stop the game. In physical, rival, BV games I hit the whistle very quickly to stop the rip the ball away and maybe take out somebody's teeth with an elbow. I sometimes sprint right up to players while blowing my whistle on a held ball if I know they are cocky.
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I will tend to wait a little longer with girls. More often than not, if I quick whistle it, someone has already yanked the ball free at the moment I hit the whistle. It also helps avoid so many whistles in a girls game. I also try and get close to the scrums and make sure I see a held ball before any whistle because sometimes we whistle for a held ball when no one has control of the ball yet just to avoid what we think will be something bad happening. I won't blow the whistle unless I see 2 players' hands on the ball.
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