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Clark Kent Thu Feb 04, 2010 01:21pm

T or no T?
 
I went to watch a VB game the other night and sat by another official.

The game went well no disparaging nor slanderous acts, words or gestures (from what I could tell from the stands) by either team. Middle of the third quarter, Visiting team has a fast break opportunity that V1 gets fouled, whistle blows, the ball bounces back to V2, a 6-7 stud D1 football signee who can jump out of the gym, who grabs the ball and dunks it. He flushes it clean, doesn't hang on the rim. Doesn't taunt or get in anyone's face, but the home fans want a T and I lean over to my buddy and ask him what he thought. Him and I had different opinions one thought it should've been a T and the other didn't.

So I open it up to the experts.....

Note: No DOG warning either

Thoughts?

Refsmitty Thu Feb 04, 2010 01:22pm

I got a T
 
T

Ignats75 Thu Feb 04, 2010 01:26pm

Direct T on the nimrod. 10-3-3

slow whistle Thu Feb 04, 2010 01:27pm

When you say "bounces back" was this a tip dunk or did he just grab it off the floor and go dunk it?

Clark Kent Thu Feb 04, 2010 01:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 658466)
When you say "bounces back" was this a tip dunk or did he just grab it off the floor and go dunk it?

He grabbed it off the floor.

slow whistle Thu Feb 04, 2010 01:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 658468)
He grabbed it off the floor.

Oh yeah then no doubt BANG. If it was a tip dunk I might give him the benefit if the doubt if he had started the dunking motion when the whistle blew.

Loudwhistle Thu Feb 04, 2010 01:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 658470)
Oh yeah then no doubt BANG. If it was a tip dunk I might give him the benefit if the doubt if he had started the dunking motion when the whistle blew.

Agreed,
easy T. What was the argument for not giving a T?

TimTaylor Thu Feb 04, 2010 02:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 658470)
Oh yeah then no doubt BANG. If it was a tip dunk I might give him the benefit if the doubt if he had started the dunking motion when the whistle blew.

What he said......

Adam Thu Feb 04, 2010 02:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimTaylor (Post 658510)
What he said......

I agree with the slow one.

lloybra Fri Feb 05, 2010 01:24am

Seat belt?
 
Would this also be an indirect to the head coach, much like it would be if a dunk was attempted during any other dead ball situation (halftime, warmups, etc.)?

just another ref Fri Feb 05, 2010 01:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by lloybra (Post 658669)
Would this also be an indirect to the head coach, much like it would be if a dunk was attempted during any other dead ball situation (halftime, warmups, etc.)?

No. This is not an intermission. The player is still a player, not bench personnel.

Nevadaref Fri Feb 05, 2010 05:08am

Whack

btaylor64 Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:54am

I have nothing on this play. He was just dunking a basketball with no hang or anything. I can see a delay of game possibly, but I don't see anything other than that??? Is there a rule in NFHS that says no dunking during a dead ball or something, if so I apologize now.

Jurassic Referee Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by btaylor64 (Post 658824)
Is there a rule in NFHS that says no dunking during a dead ball or something, if so I apologize now.

Yes, and the rule has already been cited above.

Raymond Fri Feb 05, 2010 01:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by btaylor64 (Post 658824)
I have nothing on this play. He was just dunking a basketball with no hang or anything. I can see a delay of game possibly, but I don't see anything other than that??? Is there a rule in NFHS that says no dunking during a dead ball or something, if so I apologize now.

Yes, NFHS and NCAA.


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