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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 01:31pm
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So you are saying that if someone thinks there is a conflict, there is a conflict? That opens up a whole lot of cans of worms if that is true.

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Sure does. You and I know it's not true, but to others it can be perceived as such. I can't control what fans may think. So the end result is truth be damned, they believe what they want to.


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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 01:57pm
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Sure does. You and I know it's not true, but to others it can be perceived as such. I can't control what fans may think. So the end result is truth be damned, they believe what they want to.


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Fans do not set the agenda or rules to who will work or not work a game. If that was the case people who lived in the same country, knows someone from a school or just likes or does not dislike a school (according to the fans) would be excluded. This is also why the only requirement for the IHSA is to list what schools you attended and the schools in which you have family or relatives that attend or work at a particular school. And even that seems to involve spouse and children in the policy, not the 3rd or 4th cousin you might not even deal with. Or better yet not the girl you once dated in college. I guess I should not have worked in the football post season in 2 different rounds as I worked schools that were in the town I lived and I had both schools. One school won and another school lost. And yes certain people knew where I lived and it was not an issue anymore than it needed to be. And the year before I worked in the basketball regional with the only private school in my town in a regional and I worked the third round of the playoffs in football with that same school (and I could go back to baseball post season games but you get the idea). I have absolutely no direct ties to these schools other than I live in the same town. I have closer ties to other schools that are completely out of my area, but when I work games my affiliations have nothing to do with my job and I believe that is the case with the vast majority of officials as well.

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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 02:13pm
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Fans do not set the agenda or rules to who will work or not work a game.
But fans are the ones who complain to those who decide who will work the games. It trickles down.
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 02:25pm
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But fans are the ones who complain to those who decide who will work the games. It trickles down.
True, but those who make those decisions need to have some stones and make rational decisions.
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 02:37pm
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True, but those who make those decisions need to have some stones and make rational decisions.
Agree 100%, but it doesn't always happen. I could give examples.
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 12:39am
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There is no way a ref can win in this situation even if he calls a perfect game
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 12:43am
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BIG no-no. Officials with a relative in the game????? I can't believe this is even a question.
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 02:58pm
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But fans are the ones who complain to those who decide who will work the games. It trickles down.
Not in the places I work. Then again, there are too many games for me to worry about what one group of fans think.

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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 04:14pm
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But fans are the ones who complain to those who decide who will work the games. It trickles down.
??? 99.8% of the fans around here don't have the slightest idea who assigns games.

Shoot, I work games at my son's high school (he doesn't play) and most of the staff at the game don't even know I'm a parent of a student at their school.
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 04:18pm
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??? 99.8% of the fans around here don't have the slightest idea who assigns games.

Shoot, I work games at my son's high school (he doesn't play) and most of the staff at the game don't even know I'm a parent of a student at their school.
My daughter (9) asked me a few weeks back if I will block her high school when she gets there (scary hypothetical of the week). I told her the only way I'd block her school is if she has friends on one of the teams or if she's playing.
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 04:28pm
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??? 99.8% of the fans around here don't have the slightest idea who assigns games.
And in my area this is probably even a higher percentage.

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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 07:14pm
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The Catholic school in my hometown assigns its chaplain as one of the referees for each of its boys and girls varsity games. Not quite family, but still a pretty obvious conflict of interest.
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 07:24pm
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The Catholic school in my hometown assigns its chaplain as one of the referees for each of its boys and girls varsity games. Not quite family, but still a pretty obvious conflict of interest.
This, to me, would strike me as a much bigger conflict of interest than an aunt/uncle/niece/nephew issue.
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Old Fri Feb 05, 2010, 12:20am
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??? 99.8% of the fans around here don't have the slightest idea who assigns games.
I was talking about principals, ADs, etc.
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Old Fri Feb 05, 2010, 08:59am
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I was talking about principals, ADs, etc.
They play no part in assigning officials around here.
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