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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 12:46am
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I think it is fair to say, its ok for them to work the conference, but not the game involving a family member..
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 12:59am
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I think it is fair to say, its ok for them to work the conference, but not the game involving a family member..
May not be true. What if they work a game in which a certain team losing would greatly benefit their nephew's team? Or what if one of the teams in that game plays their nephew's team next and they eject their top player so he must sit out that next contest?

There can be many problems.
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 01:37am
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Happened here too!

Happened to my team too!
The team I serve as official scorer for visited another league school.One of the officials was the uncle of a guard on the host team.The crew did a good job but even the appearance of impropriety should be avoided.That means turning the game back!

Note-This is the second time in two years that uncle has officiated a league game that his nephew's team participated in.
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 06:00am
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Concur About Perception.....

I can certainly understand it......

We have two Associations here. One is larger, closer and does my kids' school/conference. The other is smaller, further away, and more spreadout. I joined the smaller, further away Association because I was prohibited from doing my sons' school or anyone in the Conference (understandable). While I have a much longer drive for my games, it turned out to be a good move for me in the long run.

One of my regrets though is that I coached a lot of kids for many yrs and now as they approach their junior and senior years of HS, I rarely get a chance to see their games. Oh well, that's by choice.

I have done a few of their JV/V Summer HS League Games though. Close as I'm going to get.
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 07:42am
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 08:13am
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May not be true. What if they work a game in which a certain team losing would greatly benefit their nephew's team? Or what if one of the teams in that game plays their nephew's team next and they eject their top player so he must sit out that next contest?

There can be many problems.
I remember a few years ago a stink was raised about Rick Hartzell (AD at Northern Iowa) working games outside of his conference that could affect UNI's Tournament prospects (bubble teams and all that).
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 08:39am
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I remember a few years ago a stink was raised about Rick Hartzell (AD at Northern Iowa) working games outside of his conference that could affect UNI's Tournament prospects (bubble teams and all that).
How far does it go? Should Hartzell be forced to give up working D-I basketball cause he's an AD at a D-I school?

Around here we have a lot of conferences. I live in town A, been here for 2 years now. We get games 2 years in advance. I worked the last 2 years in town A (one game each season). I have no ties to the community, no kids in the district (yet). There's no way I was turning them back. I work about 6 games a season in town A's conference. I'm not cutting my schedule back by 6 games to avoid the conference.

And if you look at subvarsity, many schools hire district teachers and local residents to work those games. Nobody bats an eye at that.
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 11:27am
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May not be true. What if they work a game in which a certain team losing would greatly benefit their nephew's team? Or what if one of the teams in that game plays their nephew's team next and they eject their top player so he must sit out that next contest?

There can be many problems.
And if that is the only conference in the vicinity for them to work? They should retire from officiating until all their neices and nephews graduate?
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And if that is the only conference in the vicinity for them to work? They should retire from officiating until all their neices and nephews graduate?
Which by that time there they'll be too old to officiate based on Nevada's standards.

The fact is, in sparsely populated areas like this, you just can't always get away from it.

How far do you take this? 2nd cousins? 3rd cousins?

"Our official last night is the other team's coach's auto mechanic!"
"Our official last night has a son whose wife's younger brother plays on a JV team in our conference!"
"Our official last night has a son whose father in law has a brother whose wife's nephew's fiance is a cheerleder for the other team!"
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 11:55am
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Now Wait a Minute!

This is going too far!

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"Our official last night has a son whose father in law has a brother whose wife's nephew's fiance is a cheerleader for the other team!"
An engaged cheerleader? In HS? That's just wrong!
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Old Sun Feb 07, 2010, 11:28am
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And His Cousin, Too ???

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An engaged cheerleader? In HS? That's just wrong!
Wasn't Jerry Lee Lewis' fiancé a junior high school cheerleader?
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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 01:48pm
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They should retire from officiating until all their nieces and nephews graduate?
Hell, if that was the rule in some states, you wouldn't have any officials left to do any games.

West Virginia, Tennessee......






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Old Thu Feb 04, 2010, 01:57pm
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Hell, if that was the rule in some states, you wouldn't have any officials left to do any games.

West Virginia, Tennessee......






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People in Hell don't have relatives?
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