Originally Posted by mcdanrd (Post 657272)

According to this rule, the basket cannot be counted if it goes behind the backboard

Originally Posted by representing (Post 657150)

After my Girls JV game today (which went pretty smooth without problems), I stuck around to watch the first half of the Varsity game before I had to leave. Saw something that the officials did that I don't think I've seen done the same way in any other games I've seen in a similar situation:

V dribbles the ball down to the endline and gets under the basket. Stops... then it looks as if she is going up to try and shoot the ball. Get's fouled. Referee points to the OOB spot nearest the foul and says "underneath". Seems like I was the only one to hear this as the gym was pretty quiet still at this moment. He goes to table to report the foul and then points again to OOB spot. Gym erupts and coach is asking "wasn't she shooting?!"

At halftime I go to the locker room with the referees to grab my bag, but I just had to ask. "Why wasn't that a shooting foul?" His response; "She was behind the basket, there's no way she could have shot for an attempt to score points". His partner agreed and I left it at that.

Am I missing something here or does it seem like they messed up that call? The girl definitely went up for a shot, and it did not seem as if she was too far under the basket that she couldn't maybe swing her arm around to get a better angle at a "do-able" shot.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 657335)

To answer your question, there is no NFHS rule which prevents such a situation from being a foul in the act of shooting. It is up to the discretion of the official to decide if the player was trying for goal when fouled. There is no inbounds area of the court from which a player is not allowed to try for goal.

Originally Posted by AKOFL (Post 657341)

So would you wave off the shot if it goes and give 2 shots for the foul? This is for someone who tries a shot frombehind the backboard and is fouled. the shot travels up and over the top of the glass and goes in.

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 657262)

the shot would of been

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach (Post 657539)

Sigh. Are you a chseagle alias, or a whole different person with the same problem?

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 657265)

NBA Casebook 2009-2010

145. Player A1 is dribbling under the basket and behind the backboard when he is nudged out-of-bounds by Player B1. A foul is called on Player B1, and, as Player A1 is falling out-of-bounds, he attempts a field goal which must pass directly behind the backboard. How many free throw attempts are awarded if this is the first team foul on Team B?

None. The ball is awarded to Team A at the free throw line extended on either side of the court. Since the basket cannot be counted if it goes behind the backboard, it cannot be considered a field goal attempt. This is not to be confused with the foul which occurs in front of the backboard and momentum causes the field goal to be attempted directly behind the backboard.

RULE 8 - SECTION II - b

Originally Posted by jlfdixie (Post 657570)

What if the ball goes over the backboard but not directly behind it? Is this legal?

Originally Posted by Amesman (Post 657502)

In the case of a player behind the backboard, say, basically facing the free throw line and "attempting" a "shot" and getting fouled, would this not be akin to shooting at the wrong basket (i.e. not a legit try) attempt so no FTAs merited?

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 657592)

This response is for NFHS rules.

Nope, because the player is attempting the try at the proper basket. That is very obvious. You can't say that he isn't.

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 657573)

Correct. Two examples of it happening this year.

Originally Posted by Amesman (Post 657754)

Both NBA. Would this be allowed per NFHS? (angling it over backboard from behind and to the side). I thought no.