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fullor30 Fri Jan 29, 2010 01:26pm

Your worst mechanic?
 
Not really a mechanic, but I tend to use the wrong signal as shooter goes up and shot is partially blocked as he/she returns to floor. I signal illegal dribble for some strange reason. Just did it the other night. Partners didn't catch it, nobody notices, it but you feel silly.

It's fess up Friday.........

Mark Padgett Fri Jan 29, 2010 01:29pm

Sometimes, when a player gets clobbered going to the hoop, I'll signal a cross-check. Seems appropriate.

Of course, I'm sure most guys here will say they've worked with someone who signals a double foul for a 60 second timeout.

fullor30 Fri Jan 29, 2010 01:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 656722)
Sometimes, when a player gets clobbered going to the hoop, I'll signal a cross-check. Seems appropriate.

Of course, I'm sure most guys here will say they've worked with someone who signals a double foul for a 60 second timeout.

As I saw your name before reading I thought there was a new "we're going to overtime" mechanic instituted.

PIAA REF Fri Jan 29, 2010 01:38pm

college
 
My problem is keeping high school and college mechanic seperate. I have a habit of not stopping the clock in HS on out of bounds. ( i just point direction) and I have started a BC count once or twice in college women's
Which I realize when I get to 3. :(

justacoach Fri Jan 29, 2010 01:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 656719)
Not really a mechanic, but I tend to use the wrong signal as shooter goes up and shot is partially blocked as he/she returns to floor. I signal double dribble for some strange reason. Just did it the other night. Partners didn't catch it, nobody notices, it but you feel silly.

It's fess up Friday.........

What "signal" did you intend to use???
Was it a NFHS disseminated mechanic or one you have borrowed from our baseball brethren?

If it's the latter case, do us all a favor and remove it from your repertoire except for those instances it communicates something meaningful to your partner. These instances almost always relate to backcourt and OOB.

Loudwhistle Fri Jan 29, 2010 01:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 656723)
As I saw your name before reading I thought there was a new "we're going to overtime" mechanic instituted.

In Mark's case, the signal would be: extend right arm with fist and teeth clenched, then extend middle finger to maximum amount possible, direct finger at score board and then start the overtime.:D

Ignats75 Fri Jan 29, 2010 01:49pm

BAd habit, but it does defuse situations. A1 catches ball and juggles/bobbles it. Coach starts yelling for a travel. I make a juggling motion while looking at him. (I don't want to shout across court) I find it communicates effectively what I saw to the coach and does eliminate unnecessary noise.

Amesman Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:03pm

Anticipating a call and suddenly realizing I better scratch my head or ear instead.

Mark Padgett Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 656723)
As I saw your name before reading I thought there was a new "we're going to overtime" mechanic instituted.

Sorry - never used that. :cool:

bas2456 Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amesman (Post 656738)
Anticipating a call and suddenly realizing I better scratch my head or ear instead.

I do that sometimes...I wonder if anyone's caught me ever.

SAJ Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:13pm

Something I haven't really thought about until this topic was posted, but how many revolutions do you typically make on your travel mechanic? I make 3, but I've seen some only make 1. It seems to be the most cumbersome mechanic visually.

Wellmer Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:18pm

SAJ, what part of Nebraska are you in?

SAJ Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wellmer (Post 656749)
SAJ, what part of Nebraska are you in?

Southwest

fullor30 Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 656725)
What "signal" did you intend to use???
Was it a NFHS disseminated mechanic or one you have borrowed from our baseball brethren?

If it's the latter case, do us all a favor and remove it from your repertoire except for those instances it communicates something meaningful to your partner. These instances almost always relate to backcourt and OOB.

First of all, I'm clearly not doing you any 'favors'. Secondly, I have no idea what you're babbling about.

Better poll everyone before you use the word us.

fullor30 Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 656751)
Southwest

Chadron?

bob jenkins Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 656745)
Something I haven't really thought about until this topic was posted, but how many revolutions do you typically make on your travel mechanic?

Pi. Exactly.

fullor30 Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 656767)
Pi. Exactly.

x/(pi/2) = 1/(2*pi)
x=(pi/2)*(1/2*pi) = 1/4 revolutions

deecee Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:42pm

Your worst mechanic?

Probably all of them :o

Wellmer Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:43pm

fullor30, Chadron is more north central or northwest. Southeast would be more like Kearney, North Platte or McCook.

Wellmer Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:46pm

Worst mechanic? In my earlier days, calling a jump ball with my index fingers pointing towards the sky. Counting three seconds for a three second lane count, which by the way got quickly corrected when I went to my first camp. Those are just a couple that come to mind.

Adam Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 656740)
I do that sometimes...I wonder if anyone's caught me ever.

Every official (and half the coaches) in the building knows exactly what you're doing. :D I've done it. Working on a patient whistle helps with this. :)

just another ref Fri Jan 29, 2010 03:08pm

Guy who charged me $400 to replace my alternator and all I needed was a battery.

26 Year Gap Fri Jan 29, 2010 03:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amesman (Post 656738)
Anticipating a call and suddenly realizing I better scratch my head or ear instead.

Like getting faked out on a 3 that turns out to be a pass?

shutupneff Fri Jan 29, 2010 05:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 656745)
Something I haven't really thought about until this topic was posted, but how many revolutions do you typically make on your travel mechanic? I make 3, but I've seen some only make 1. It seems to be the most cumbersome mechanic visually.

I usually do 2 revolutions. 3 if I feel I need to emphasize that I'm calling a travel rather than something else, like if there was a would-be shooting foul immediately after the walk.

BillyMac Fri Jan 29, 2010 07:11pm

"Traffic signals in New York are just rough guidelines" (David Letterman)
 
I have a tough time with a three point try, shooter is fouled, and the ball goes in. I never seem to be able to go through al the signals smoothly.

Also, even though it's been around for a few years, I still feel awkward with the illegal screen (team control, block) signal.

Adam Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:17am

I still struggle with the team control signal. It just feels awkward.

zm1283 Sat Jan 30, 2010 01:52am

Does flipping the coach off count as a "worst mechanic"? :D

The team control signal has become much easier for me. I usually point instead of use the closed fist thing. You have to verbalize the TC foul well or no one will know what is going on sometimes.

The player control foul mechanic is probably the toughest for me. I don't have any trouble calling them, but putting your hand behind your head is just awkward to me, and I've watched too many college games where they simply point the other direction, so I end up doing that sometimes.

LocDog249 Sat Jan 30, 2010 01:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by PIAA REF (Post 656724)
I have started a BC count once or twice in college women's
Which I realize when I get to 3. :(

I actually had a friend call this in a women's college game. I wasn't there to see it but I'm sure he got it good from the coaches.

SAJ Sat Jan 30, 2010 02:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wellmer (Post 656779)
fullor30, Chadron is more north central or northwest. Southeast would be more like Kearney, North Platte or McCook.

:cool:

Freddy Sat Jan 30, 2010 08:01am

Hi, My Name is Freddy, and I'm an . . .
 
My worst mechanic is giving the "Kicked Ball" signal.
Only signal not given with the hands. And I never seem to be in stride correctly to not look like I'm about to trip over my own two feet. :o
Maybe if I wouldn't be trying to raise my foot as high as a Ray Guy punt I'd be more comfortable with it. :D

grunewar Sat Jan 30, 2010 08:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amesman (Post 656738)
Anticipating a call and suddenly realizing I better scratch my head or ear instead.

Guilty!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 656740)
I do that sometimes...I wonder if anyone's caught me ever.

Oh, my evaluator/trainer saw me all right.......ouch! :(

26 Year Gap Sat Jan 30, 2010 09:16am

Maybe not Ray Guy, but maybe...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 656958)
My worst mechanic is giving the "Kicked Ball" signal.
Only signal not given with the hands. And I never seem to be in stride correctly to not look like I'm about to trip over my own two feet. :o
Maybe if I wouldn't be trying to raise my foot as high as a Ray Guy punt I'd be more comfortable with it. :D

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Freddy Sat Jan 30, 2010 09:27am

Kickin'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 656966)

Yep, that's how I do it. Can't figure out why it seems clumsy to me. I get a lot of applause when it happens, though. :)

26 Year Gap Sat Jan 30, 2010 09:34am

They get help from their partners....

justacoach Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:08pm

Raider Nation Redux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 656958)
trying to raise my foot as high as a Ray Guy :D

Showin' yer age here?


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