too many players

[Da Official]

Originally Posted by representing

Was just thinking about a game I had two years ago. Home team substitution, one player must have misheard that she was being subbed for. My partner gives the ball to opposing team for a throw-in and ball is thrown in. I see a girl running off the court and onto the bench. She didn't affect play at all, but my instinct immediately blew the whistle for too many players on the court.

I may have messed this up... I gave a T to the player that was the extra player on the court, and an indirect to the coach. Thinking about it now, I'm pretty sure I'm wrong, and was probably thinking of soccer where an extra player gets the yellow card.

Only reason why I'm thinking of this is because I just got assigned a Girls JV at the school where this happened, and that team doesn't welcome me back in their gym for Girls JV anymore. I'm kind of secretively being assigned because if the school finds out, they'll call the assignor and try everything to get me off of that game.

What is the proper procedure for this? It's a T to the team, but nothing for coach and player right?

Funny this is being discussed because this happened to me this weekend at a Middle School tournament.

I am T on the endline in the back court while partner is in the front court handling a substitution. He gives me the ok and I put the ball in play. We go up the court and B1 fouls A1 on a shot that goes in. Partner at L calls a foul. As we're switching so partner can report...Coach B yells out "They have 6 players!!!".

I count Team A's player and by darn it they have 6. I call the technical and report the team technical and explain we'll shoot the bonus shot with the line cleared, then Team B will shoot 2 shots for the T, and then Team B gets the ball at the division line, opposite table.

Coach B is still upset...."So they get points and they had 6 players on the court? You have to take the points off?"

Me: "Coach, this is not a correctable error. We called a technical and you'll shoot 2 and get the ball but we cannot remove the points."

Coach: (Sarcasticly) "Why didn't catch this before hand".

Me: "Why didn't you?"

Coach: (Obviously taken back) "Uhh... I don't wear the black and white shirt, its not my job".

Me: "Sorry coach we don't catch everything." (Walk off...)

It wasn't my best moment...but hey we live and learn. Ha ha.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Da Official

I am T on the endline in the back court while partner is in the front court handling a substitution.

Stop right here. Why didn't you count the players before bouncing the ball to the player?

While I'm all for trusting partners, they make mistakes. It's why, in football 2 officials are tasked with counting each team's players.

Sorry, this thread hit one of my pet peeves, I guess.

[bradfordwilkins]

Originally Posted by Da Official

Funny this is being discussed because this happened to me this weekend at a Middle School tournament.

I am T on the endline in the back court while partner is in the front court handling a substitution. He gives me the ok and I put the ball in play. We go up the court and B1 fouls A1 on a shot that goes in. Partner at L calls a foul. As we're switching so partner can report...Coach B yells out "They have 6 players!!!".

I count Team A's player and by darn it they have 6. I call the technical and report the team technical and explain we'll shoot the bonus shot with the line cleared, then Team B will shoot 2 shots for the T, and then Team B gets the ball at the division line, opposite table.

Coach B is still upset...."So they get points and they had 6 players on the court? You have to take the points off?"

Me: "Coach, this is not a correctable error. We called a technical and you'll shoot 2 and get the ball but we cannot remove the points."

Coach: (Sarcasticly) "Why didn't catch this before hand".

Me: "Why didn't you?"

Coach: (Obviously taken back) "Uhh... I don't wear the black and white shirt, its not my job".

Me: "Sorry coach we don't catch everything." (Walk off...)

It wasn't my best moment...but hey we live and learn. Ha ha.

The NBA actually just created a rule last season to correct this situation so that the team with 6 players can't get the points earned while having too many men on the floor. Happened during a Toronto vs Portland game.