What can they do now?

[referee99]

Team A passing the ball in the front court, ball batted by B1 into back court.
A1 is the only player pursuing the ball, near the sideline in the back court. A1 starts a dribble, actually toward opponents end line. Takes 2 dribbles and realizes that he is losing his balance and will soon go OOB. A1 pushes the ball to the floor one last time and then his momentum carries him out of bounds.

No other players are in the back court. A1 then regains balance, and returns to the floor. What can he now do?

Catch the ball? Resume his dribble?

Any difference if he dribbles the ball off of his leg and goes out of bounds?

[just another ref]

He can return inbounds and do anything he could have done had he not gone out in the first place. Dribbling the ball off his own leg would not change this.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

He can return inbounds and do anything he could have done had he not gone out in the first place. Dribbling the ball off his own leg would not change this.

Correct. Why people believe that there is something amiss on such a play is baffling to me.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a player going OOB due to momentum. There is no penalty whatsoever associated with this.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Correct. Why people believe that there is something amiss on such a play is baffling to me.

Yep. This is one of those where a buzz goes through the crowd. One side points and says "Hey! He can't do that...........can he?"

[referee99]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Correct. Why people believe that there is something amiss on such a play is baffling to me.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a player going OOB due to momentum. There is no penalty whatsoever associated with this.

He's no longer a dribbler when he steps out? I can see an interrupted dribble when off their leg, but in original stich, player bounced the ball with every intention to return to it. Is that "momentarily getting away" from the dribbler?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by referee99

He's no longer a dribbler when he steps out? I can see an interrupted dribble when off their leg, but in original stich, player bounced the ball with every intention to return to it. Is that "momentarily getting away" from the dribbler?

If he is clearly in control of the dribble it is a violation when he steps out. In the OP when the dribbler lost his balance I pictured him also losing control of the ball.

[referee99]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If he is clearly in control of the dribble it is a violation when he steps out. In the OP when the dribbler lost his balance I pictured him also losing control of the ball.

... leaving the ball in a spot. One last bounce, like, "you stay here, I'll be right back"

[RefIzitDre]

A1 blocks a pass near the end line. The ball falls to the floor inbounds, but A1 who is off balance steps off the court,. A1 returns inbounds secures control of the ball and dribbles.

Ruling LEGAL
A1 did not leave the court voluntarily and did not have control of the ball when he did.

This situation is similar to one in which A1 makes a try from under the basket and momentum carries A1 off the court. If the try is unsuccessful, A1 may com back onto the court and regain control since A1 did not leave the court voluntarily and did not have control of the ball when he did.


Almost the same play ...yes? (case play 7.1.1)

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by RefIzitDre

A1 blocks a pass near the end line. The ball falls to the floor inbounds, but A1 who is off balance steps off the court,. A1 returns inbounds secures control of the ball and dribbles.

Ruling LEGAL
A1 did not leave the court voluntarily and did not have control of the ball when he did.

This situation is similar to one in which A1 makes a try from under the basket and momentum carries A1 off the court. If the try is unsuccessful, A1 may com back onto the court and regain control since A1 did not leave the court voluntarily and did not have control of the ball when he did.


Almost the same play ...yes? (case play 7.1.1)

Yep.

[justacoach]

Did anyone have presence of mind to start a 10 sec count when the ball gained BC status?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Did anyone have presence of mind to start a 10 sec count when the ball gained BC status?

How about a 10 month count when this thread ended?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

How about a 10 month count when this thread ended?

Violation.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

How about a 10 month count when this thread ended?

I've always thought threads should automaticallty close when there's been no activity for 30 days (or some period of time).

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I've always thought threads should automaticallty close when there's been no activity for 30 days (or some period of time).

There is an option (or perhaps a modification) on some forums where this can be done. I have no idea if it is something that could be done in vBulletin but I imagine it could. Of course, Brad would have to implement it.

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I've always thought threads should automaticallty close when there's been no activity for 30 days (or some period of time).

What and diminish the fun of the regulars who pile on the, usual newbie, who resurrects a long languishing thread.