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Old Sat Jan 23, 2010, 12:56pm
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Correctable Error -- Change of Possession Clause

2.10.6 ... If an error is corrected, play shall be resumed from the point of interruption to rectify the error, unless it involves awarding a merited free-throw(s) and there and been no change of team possession since the error was made, in which case play shall resume as after any free-throw attempts(s).

Can one infer that 'team possession' is the same as 'team control'?
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Old Sat Jan 23, 2010, 06:15pm
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Old Sat Jan 23, 2010, 07:39pm
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2.10.6 ... If an error is corrected, play shall be resumed from the point of interruption to rectify the error, unless it involves awarding a merited free-throw(s) and there and been no change of team possession since the error was made, in which case play shall resume as after any free-throw attempts(s).

Can one infer that 'team possession' is the same as 'team control'?
No...they are not the same. Team possession is not an explicitly defined term but it basically includes team control and any time when a team is due a throwin after a made basket, after a violation or foul by the other team, or after a timeout is granted. Essentially, one team always has "possession" once the game starts.

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A1 deserves a FT that is not awarded. Instead, A is given the ball for a throwin. A eventually commits a violation or foul. Before the ball is given to B for the throwin, the error is discovered. What next? A1 gets the merited FT with no one on the lane. B1 will get the ball for a throwin at the spot nearest the violation. Team possesion changed at the moment of the violation.
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Old Sat Jan 23, 2010, 08:06pm
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No...they are not the same. Team possession is not an explicitly defined term but it basically includes team control and any time when a team is due a throwin after a made basket, after a violation or foul by the other team, or after a timeout is granted. Essentially, one team always has "possession" once the game starts.
If it's not explicitly defined, whence your definition?
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If it's not explicitly defined, whence your definition?
I think there are case plays to this effect.
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If it's not explicitly defined, whence your definition?
The principle is that once a team has earned "possession" they don't get it taken away by a correctable error. They earn possession by the other team committing an infraction (foul or violation), by securing a rebound, or by getting a steal.
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The principle is that once a team has earned "possession" they don't get it taken away by a correctable error. They earn possession by the other team committing an infraction (foul or violation), by securing a rebound, or by getting a steal.
mbyron, Camron is right. The two are not synonymous. Team possession can be gained without team control. Two examples are the ball becoming at the disposal of a thrower and the ball becoming dead for a held ball with the arrow pointing in the team's favor. Both of those situations confer team possession for correctable error purposes, but lack team control.

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I think there are case plays to this effect.
Yes, but unfortunately, not all of them are correct, particularly a couple of the most recent rulings.
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