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Rich Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:19pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 651217)
Girls don't need a lot of time to flip the switch.



You just made me frown and crinkle my brow. :D It sounds like you had a legit opportunity to get rid of a bad apple early on and you didn't do it.

My buddy has a saying that goes like this, "Kill em all before we get to camp because we don't have enough provisions to feed them!"

In other words, handle your business before they come back to kick you in the______.

Put another way, no good deed goes unpunished.

Chess Ref Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:21pm

What ?
 
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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 651217)
My buddy has a saying that goes like this, "Kill em all before we get to camp because we don't have enough provisions to feed them!"

I'm having a Homer moment.

Help me.

Exactly who are we to kill before we get to camp ?

Adam Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:24pm

Isn't it obvious?
 
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Originally Posted by Chess Ref (Post 651229)
I'm having a Homer moment.

Help me.

Exactly who are we to kill before we get to camp ?

The baby dolphins.

tomegun Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:30pm

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Originally Posted by Chess Ref (Post 651229)
I'm having a Homer moment.

Help me.

Exactly who are we to kill before we get to camp ?

Well, he is one of those guys that say things that make you need a translator. If you took some hostages back to camp, as opposed to killing them, you would have to feed them.

:D:D:D I give up, translate it to mean whatever you would like...baby dolphins, puppies, etc.

Chess Ref Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:33pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 651234)
The baby dolphins.

Shooting baby dolphins in my part of the world is fightin words. :rolleyes:

Chess Ref Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:33pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 651244)
Well, he is one of those guys that say things that make you need a translator. If you took some hostages back to camp, as opposed to killing them, you would have to feed them.

:D:D:D I give up, translate it to mean whatever you would like...baby dolphins, puppies, etc.

thank you, Homer moment has passed.

Jurassic Referee Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:42pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 651225)
You had a flagrant intentional personal foul.

Impossible. There's no such foul and there never has been. You can have a flagrant personal foul or you can have a intentional personal foul.

The sentence "it may or may not be intentional" in rule 4-19-4 has been completely misinterpreted by some people. The word "intentional" refers to the act being deliberate in nature, not the type of foul.

And if you think differently, call or e-mail your IAABO national interpreter before going into one of your famous 10,000 word filibusters.:)

Again, there is NO such animal as a flagrant intentional personal foul.

Mark Padgett Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:44pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 651259)
Again, there is NO such animal as a flagrant intentional personal foul.

You're right. It's a vegetable.

OK - I'll get back on the meds. :o

jdw3018 Wed Jan 13, 2010 05:06pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 651259)
Impossible. There's no such foul and there never has been. You can have a flagrant personal foul or you can have a flagrant intentional foul.

The sentence "it may or may not be intentional" in rule 4-19-4 has been completely misinterpreted by some people. The word "intentional" refers to the act being deliberate in nature, not the type of foul.

And if you think differently, call or e-mail your IAABO national interpreter before going into one of your famous 10,000 word filibusters.:)

Again, there is NO such animal as a flagrant intentional personal foul.

Perhaps I'm mistaken (very possible) or perhaps you've mis-typed (possible, I suppose), but I believe there can be either a flagrant personal foul or a flagrant technical foul. No such thing as a flagrant intentional foul.

You can, of course, have an intentional personal foul or an intentional technical foul.

Adam Wed Jan 13, 2010 05:11pm

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 651272)
Perhaps I'm mistaken (very possible) or perhaps you've mis-typed (possible, I suppose), but I believe there can be either a flagrant personal foul or a flagrant technical foul. No such thing as a flagrant intentional foul.
You can, of course, have an intentional personal foul or an intentional technical foul.

You disagreed with him and virtually quoted him at the same time. Another way to put it would be, "There's no such thing as a flagrant intentional foul, personal or technical."

IOW (one more time), there's no such thing as a flagrant intentional personal foul or a flagrant intentional technical foul.

jdw3018 Wed Jan 13, 2010 05:15pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 651275)
You disagreed with him and virtually quoted him at the same time.

Well, I'm glad we agree, but:

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 651259)
Impossible. There's no such foul and there never has been. You can have a flagrant personal foul or you can have a flagrant intentional foul.

Like I said, either I'm wrong, or Jurassic mis-typed (which is what I believe happened). I think he meant to write flagrant technical foul where I quoted in red. Or he's wrong, which I doubt in this instance.

Adam Wed Jan 13, 2010 05:23pm

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 651280)
Well, I'm glad we agree, but:


Like I said, either I'm wrong, or Jurassic mis-typed (which is what I believe happened). I think he meant to write flagrant technical foul where I quoted in red. Or he's wrong, which I doubt in this instance.

Uh, never mind. Gotcha.

Jurassic Referee Wed Jan 13, 2010 05:30pm

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 651272)
Perhaps I'm mistaken (very possible) or perhaps you've mis-typed (possible, I suppose), but I believe there can be either a flagrant personal foul or a flagrant technical foul. No such thing as a flagrant intentional foul.

You can, of course, have an intentional personal foul or an intentional technical foul.

Aw geeze, I was in such a hurry to make my point that I screwed up myself. You're 100% correct. I went back and corrected my post.

Thanks. Appreciated.

jdw3018 Wed Jan 13, 2010 05:33pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 651288)
Aw geeze, I was in such a hurry to make my point that I screwed up myself. You're 100% correct. I went back and corrected my post.

Thanks. Appreciated.

Figured that's exactly what you meant, but since we're talking about specific language here I wanted to be sure. I still find myself learning new things that I was previously very certain on to take anything for granted.

Adam Wed Jan 13, 2010 05:34pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 651288)
Aw geeze, I was in such a hurry to make my point that I screwed up myself. You're 100% correct. I went back and corrected my post.

Thanks. Appreciated.

I don't know who you are anymore.


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