did we get this right tonight?

[bas2456]

Not disputing your explanation Jurrassic, because it's correct. But as a newer official let me break it down "out loud", then you all can correct me if need be.

A1 is fouled in the act of shooting. Based on the OP, it's well after the shot is released. At approx. the same time, A2 fouls B2.

This is a simultaneous foul, not a double foul.

By rule, we go to Point of Interruption. My first instinct was to say that POI would be the free throw, but since the ball was released on a shot, there is no team control. This is why we go to the possession arrow.

If the A1 was fouled before the release of the shot, there would still be team control, thus the POI would be two free throws for A1. Is that correct?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bas2456

If the A1 was fouled before the release of the shot, there would still be team control, thus the POI would be two free throws for A1. Is that correct?

Lah me.....

See rule 10-6PENALTIES1(d).

Then see rule 4-36-2(a)

No FT's and team A gets a throw-in(without the arrow changing).

Now you guys tell me where the A throw-in location is, by rule? And a rules reference would be just peachy-keen too.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Lah me.....

See rule 10-6PENALTIES1(d).

Then see rule 4-36-2(a)

No FT's and team gets a throw-in(without the arrow changing).

Now you guys tell me where the A throw-in location is, by rule? And a rules reference would be just peachy-keen too.

Well that would be the spot nearest to where the ball was located at the time of interruption 4.19.10

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Well that would be the spot nearest to where the ball was located at the time of interruption 4.19.10

Actually it's in rule 4-36-2(a), as I cited in the same post asking that question. I was just kinda wondering if anybody would take the time to look that cite up.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Actually it's in rule 4-36-2(a), as I cited in the same post asking that question. I was just kinda wondering if anybody would take the time to look that cite up.

I was about to put that, but the case book used clearer language to me. It also cites 7-5-3b

[representing]

Thanks for the explanation. My "disappearance" was because I went to play some pick-up basketball with my buddies at the local Y. But I just wanted to say thanks.

So according to your explanations, we pretty much did everything correct, except that we called it a double foul instead of simultaneous. I emailed my partner prior to leaving and told him that we got it all right except that it is a simultaneous foul instead of double foul. He has emailed me back to say that he agreed after reading the rulebook on that one.

Thanks again!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by representing

Thanks for the explanation.
So according to your explanations, we pretty much did everything correct, except that we called it a double foul instead of simultaneous. I emailed my partner prior to leaving and told him that we got it all right except that it is a simultaneous foul instead of double foul.

Yeah, you got everything right except that neither of you also knew that you had to go to the POI instead of an AP. You just got lucky because in your particular situation the POI also happened to be an AP.

Sooooo, before you and your partner throw out a shoulder patting each other on the back, you should both realize that (a) neither of you knew the correct rules or how to apply them, and (b) it was sheer luck that the play ended up being called correctly.