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Thumper68 Thu Dec 31, 2009 02:16pm

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Originally Posted by TimTaylor (Post 647401)
What Bob said. Use of the coaching box is optional by state association adoption, and how it is handled if the box isn't marked is their venue as well. In Oregon we have specific instructions that the game will not start until the coaching box is marked.

As to how to handle the original question posed by coach41, my first step is either a quiet "coach, don't forget the box" or making eye contact, pointing at where he is and then at the box - depends on the specific circumstances at the time. Step two is to warn & step three a technical foul.

I suppose we could always ask for a new rule to install an anchor in the center of the box with a 7 foot lead attached to a belt or harness for the coach.....think they would go for it? :D:D:D:D




Or perhaps a enclosed cage. One with a top so that they couldn't crawl out! :D:D

TimTaylor Thu Dec 31, 2009 02:23pm

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Originally Posted by Thumper68 (Post 647403)
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Or perhaps a enclosed cage. One with a top so that they couldn't crawl out! :D:D

I thought of that, but figured it would constitute too much of a hazard to the players - then again so might my bungee cord idea. We need to come up with a better approach...........how about the invisible fence & shock collar they use to keep pets in the yard.......:D

bob jenkins Thu Dec 31, 2009 02:37pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 647392)
I wrote an e-mail to the state director over basketball asking about it. How I stated it in the e-mail is that the gyms I have been in do not have it marked, nor have the ones I have seen in the media (tv & newspaper).

Really? IMO, that's NOT the way to get yourself promoted to the varsity games at your local school.

chseagle Thu Dec 31, 2009 02:44pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 647424)
Really? IMO, that's NOT the way to get yourself promoted to the varsity games at your local school.

I asked what the state association rules were as I know there are differences between the NFHS Rules & those the WIAA uses.

Adam Thu Dec 31, 2009 02:51pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 647264)
Speaking of required floor markings, before the last game I did mention to the AD about the "X" in front of the official scorer. His response was that nothing had been said about it & not to worry about it.

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 647392)
I wrote an e-mail to the state director over basketball asking about it. How I stated it in the e-mail is that the gyms I have been in do not have it marked, nor have the ones I have seen in the media (tv & newspaper).

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 647431)
I asked what the state association rules were as I know there are differences between the NFHS Rules & those the WIAA uses.

This what Bob is talking about: you asked your AD and he said to let it go. You then decided to email the state. That's called going over your AD's head, and it's always harmful to aspirations.

Thumper68 Thu Dec 31, 2009 03:36pm

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Originally Posted by TimTaylor (Post 647408)
I thought of that, but figured it would constitute too much of a hazard to the players - then again so might my bungee cord idea. We need to come up with a better approach...........how about the invisible fence & shock collar they use to keep pets in the yard.......:D




Yep I see your point there! I am liking this idea much better. Give the "R" a manual shock button to hit him with too. Gives a whole new meaning to "Whack" :)

tomegun Thu Dec 31, 2009 04:01pm

Chseagle is becoming legendary in a hurry ! :D

I have given two Ts for coaches being out of the box...in the same game! I brought them together and asked them nicely if they would stay in the box. After that I T'd one and the other one didn't get it so I T'd him up. The Ts fixed the problem.

26 Year Gap Thu Dec 31, 2009 04:08pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 647479)
Chseagle is becoming Diebleresque in a hurry ! :D

I have given two Ts for coaches being out of the box...in the same game! I brought them together and asked them nicely if they would stay in the box. After that I T'd one and the other one didn't get it so I T'd him up. The Ts fixed the problem.

There. Repair work is done.

TimTaylor Thu Dec 31, 2009 04:40pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 647442)
This what Bob is talking about: you asked your AD and he said to let it go. You then decided to email the state. That's called going over your AD's head, and it's always harmful to aspirations.

Agreed! It may get you noticed, but almost certainly not the type of attention you want......

26 Year Gap Thu Dec 31, 2009 04:53pm

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Originally Posted by TimTaylor (Post 647498)
Agreed! It may get you noticed, but almost certainly not the type of attention you want......

"It's a jungle out there."

BillyMac Thu Dec 31, 2009 06:54pm

Excuses, Excuses ...
 
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Originally Posted by TimTaylor (Post 647401)
In Oregon we have specific instructions that the game will not start until the coaching box is marked.

Here's how we handle it in Connecticut:

Coaching Box must be marked. If home coach and/or home management refuse to designate coaching box with tape, the home team will not use a coaching box for that game. However, the visiting team will be allowed a coaching box. Notify Board Secretary, or Commissioner the next day.

The old excuse was, "The custodians won't let us put tape on the gymnasium floor. It discolors the finish on the floor."


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