Unsporting Acts
 

Is it me or are there several threads that boil down to unsporting acts. I'm not big on absolutes, but I absolutely hate unsporting acts, from coaches and players, in high school basketball. I know we have a problem with it here in Vegas.

Can someone post the rule and penalty for unsporting acts (I don't have a rulebook at work)?

10-3-6
Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as:
a. Disrespectfully addressing or contacting an official or gesturing in such a manner as to indicate resentment.
b. Use profane or inappropriate language or obscene gestures.
c. Baiting or taunting an opponent
Note: The NFHS disapproves of any form of taunting which is intended or designed to embarras, ridicule or demean other under any circumstances including on the basis or race, religiion, gender or national origin.
d. Purposely obstructin an opponent's vision by waving or placing hand(s) near his/her eyes
Note: Purposely diverting an opponent's attention by waving is different than holding or waving the hands near the opponent's eyes for the express purpose of obstructing the vision so that he/she cannot see.
e. Climbing on or lifting a teammate to secure greater height.
f. Faking being fouled, knowingly attempting a free throw or accepting a foul to which the play was not entitled.
g. Use tobacco or smokeless tobacco,
h. Removing the jersey and/or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing area.

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And it says?

Since tom made me post it, ;), I'd like to discuss (e).

If a player did the old heave-ho, where the player cups their hands and inter-locks their fingers and then another player runs and pushes off while the other player is lifting up into the air .... do you have two technicals (one for climbing, one for lifting) or are you just charging one?

Edit:

Sorry, tom... as I was typing the submit button must of been highlighted and when I hard returned it submitted... no worries... I was typing and wasn't producing anything for a couple seconds. :D

I would say one T.

I guess Nevada is either on holiday break/vacation or his computer is broke.

Way too much fun stuff on here for him to be absent this morning... ;)

I don't have a problem with one technical... I would certainly talk to both players.

Buuuut, if you only call one... who would you call it on? To make it easier, lets say A1 is being lifted/climbing and A5 is the lifter.

I agree, jdw.

I would call it on the lifter.

Interesting. I'd probably call it on the jumper-offer (I intentionally chose this term).

I'd call it on the jumper-offer if he climbed up a teammate without that teammate's permission, so I'm just going to keep it consistent here.

Or, I'll make them rochambeau for it.

I guess we are still on unsporting acts while straying.

What if: A1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off A1's back and dunks.

What if: B1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off B1's back and dunks.

Great minds. I was typing my "scenario" while you posted this response.

10-3- (a player shall not )
ART. 6 . . . Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts
or conduct such as:
a. Disrespectfully addressing or contacting an official or gesturing in such a
manner as to indicate resentment.
b. Using profane or inappropriate language or obscene gestures.
c. Baiting or taunting an opponent.
Rule 10-4 2009-10 NFHS Basketball Rules Page 60
NOTE: The NFHS disapproves of any form of taunting which is intended or designed
to embarrass, ridicule or demean others under any circumstances including on the
basis of race, religion, gender or national origin.
d. Purposely obstructing an opponent’s vision by waving or placing hand(s)
near his/her eyes.
NOTE: Purposely diverting an opponent’s attention by waving is different than
holding or waving the hands near the opponent’s eyes for the express purpose of
obstructing the vision so that he/she cannot see.
e. Climbing on or lifting a teammate to secure greater height.
f. Faking being fouled, knowingly attempting a free throw or accepting a foul
to which the player was not entitled.
g. Use tobacco or smokeless tobacco.
h. Removing the jersey and/or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing area.

As I stated, I'd call it on A2 in the first.

In the second, would you consider a flagrant T?

I have very little tolerance of unsporting acts in a high school basketball game. Every state doesn't hold a meeting with the coaches prior to the game; Mississippi requires it. Although we aren't required to do it here in Vegas, I make it a part of what we do when I'm the R. I use it as communication to let the coaches know that they can talk to us (not at us) during the game when we get in front of them during a natural rotation - we are not going to make a special trip just to talk to them. I also talk to the coaches about sportsmanship and how his or her players will likely follow their lead. This helps a little and I'm willing to accept baby steps when it comes to sportsmanship.

Rochambeau or roshambo? I'm just asking for a friend.

1) Technical on A2.
2) Technical on A2.

Edit: A little late to the party, Upward ref. But, thanks for posting... welcome to the forum!!

I believe either is acceptable. :)

Good question. Can there be a flagrant T involving contact during a live ball?

Hmm. Not for contact. So, flagrant personal?

This is basically intentionally stepping on an opponent. I think I'd go w/ flagrant here.

Agree - flagrant personal.

I think if you are going to go flagrant, flagrant personal.

Yep. We would actually be penalizing the act of stepping on an opponent (flagrant personal) rather than the act of jumping off someone (technical).

JMHO,

If I were going with a flagrant on this, it would be a flagrant T. I'm not penalizing the contact per se, which was not "of a violent or savage nature." I'm penalizing the player's unsporting behavior.

I can see that. Do you think flagrant (one way or the other) is the right call here?

BITS,

I can see your point, but IMHO jumping off of someone's back could be extremely dangerous - all kinds of potential for serious injury (think spine and kidneys). Think I'd go with the flagrant personal.....

It depends on the game context. As an isolated incident, I don't think this rises to the level of throwing a punch or driving an opponent into the wall. But, it's clearly a non-basketball play with serious potential to tank my game. In my mind the question will not be "should I toss him?" it will be "is there any good reason to keep him?"

I agree with the potential for injury. However, a flagrant personal is defined by the nature of the act, not the severity of the result, by the intent to injure not just potential to injure. In my opinion the act is not "of a violent or savage nature" nor would I characterize it as "violent contact such as: striking, kicking and kneeing."

However, debating exactly why to toss him is little more than an interesting academic exercise. The only real difference is who shoots and where the ball gets put back in play. ;)

I have actually called this. 1A (I think) All star game at the end of the season three or four years ago. A1 went off of A2's bak on all 4's.... Easy T

Yep :D

If we didn't engage in academic exercises, this forum would be a pretty boring place!

Yep. And I did say the "academic exercise" was interesting. It's a train of thought I'd never considered.

Play 1, I agree T on A2. A1 didn't do anything to penalize.

Play 2, is either intentional personal or flagrant personal. I'll side with flagrant because I can't imagine keeping somebody around who steps on an opponent intentionally.

It can't be a T (if the ball is live), because the T is for teammates climbing on or lifting. A2 and B1 are not teammates.

Good catch! I agree.....

I have become very intolerant of player behavior that is unsporting. I possess no shyness about wacking the little rat*******s when they start with the complaining about calls. I usually give one loud verbal warning that is for all the players to hear and then its time to pull the trigger. We have some issues in athletics here in Northern Ohio with unsporting behavior too. And its not just basketball. A Varsity Football game was suspended and later declared a double forfeit because of a fight that started on the field between four players and expanded quickly throught the stadium. Pretty scary stuff for the officials.

I've called 2 T's already this year for taunting in which a player stood over another player who was prone on the ground after a foul. I have a itchy trigger finger for imtimidation tactics. I can't stand it.

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