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[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by Ref_in_Alberta

Constable,

99.99999999999% correct. There is no POI (defined) under FIBA rules. When penalties of equal weight occur and you can start cancelling penalties (i.e. Coach A T - Team B Unsportsmanlike = 0) the correct resumption of play in this case is AP.

In the case where there is Team Control and a double foul or offsetting technicals occurs the ball goes back to the team that was in control when the foul occured.

Double foul where there is a basket scored. The team that was scored on gets the ball OOB for the throw in.

Sorry, but there's no continuous motion rule for a technical foul on the coach. Article 10.4 states that "the ball does not become dead if a player commits a foul on any opponent while the ball is in the control of the opponent in the act of shooting for field goal and who finishes his shot with a continuous motion which started before the foul occurred." A coach is not a player.

In this case the ball leaves the shooter's hands after the official whistled for the T on the coach. So, strictly speaking, the basket should not be counted. The player's foul is an easy U (it does not matter whether the ball is dead or alive); since the act of shooting began before the ball became dead for the technical foul, the penalty is three FT and possession of the ball at the division line, since the shooter was in the three point area.

If the coach is of the blue team, two FT for any player of the white team, three FT for the player who was fouled and ball at the division line for the white team.

If the coach is of the white team the penalties do not cancel: so two FT for any player of the blue team, three FT for the player who was fouled and ball at the division line for the white team. By rule, the possession for the blue team is lost, since another penalty must be administered.

Assuming that the shooter was in the two point area, there would be no AP either; the two penalties would cancel, but at the moment of the first infraction the ball was in possession of the white team, so the play would resume with a throw-in for the white team. Article 12.3 states that there is a jump ball situation when "After the cancellation of equal penalties against both teams, there are no other foul penalties remaining for administration and neither team had control of the ball nor was entitled to the ball before the first foul or violation."

However, the official shouldn't have called a technical on the coach while a player was in the act of shooting. Follow the play, which is more important, the technical can come after the shoot.

Ciao

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by eg-italy

Sorry, but there's no continuous motion rule for a technical foul on the coach. Article 10.4 states that "the ball does not become dead if a player commits a foul on any opponent while the ball is in the control of the opponent in the act of shooting for field goal and who finishes his shot with a continuous motion which started before the foul occurred." A coach is not a player.

In this case the ball leaves the shooter's hands after the official whistled for the T on the coach. So, strictly speaking, the basket should not be counted. The player's foul is an easy U (it does not matter whether the ball is dead or alive); since the act of shooting began before the ball became dead for the technical foul, the penalty is three FT and possession of the ball at the division line, since the shooter was in the three point area.

If the coach is of the blue team, two FT for any player of the white team, three FT for the player who was fouled and ball at the division line for the white team.

If the coach is of the white team the penalties do not cancel: so two FT for any player of the blue team, three FT for the player who was fouled and ball at the division line for the white team. By rule, the possession for the blue team is lost, since another penalty must be administered.

Assuming that the shooter was in the two point area, there would be no AP either; the two penalties would cancel, but at the moment of the first infraction the ball was in possession of the white team, so the play would resume with a throw-in for the white team. Article 12.3 states that there is a jump ball situation when "After the cancellation of equal penalties against both teams, there are no other foul penalties remaining for administration and neither team had control of the ball nor was entitled to the ball before the first foul or violation."

However, the official shouldn't have called a technical on the coach while a player was in the act of shooting. Follow the play, which is more important, the technical can come after the shoot.
Ciao

On the other hand, if you wish to inflict pain on the coach, call the "T" when the official did and wave off the basket. Not that an official would EVER have this mindset.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Interesting case, and it depends on which team he coaches. If he's the defensive coach in this play, count the basket (assuming it went in), shoot two for the intentional and then two for the technical foul.

If he's the offensive coach, discount the basket. Shoot two for the coach's T, then the shooter will take two free throws for the dead ball intentional technical foul that happened on the "shot."

I disagree with your stated order of the FTs if he is the defensive coach.

I disagree with who you say will take the 2FTs for the intentional technical if he is the offensive coach.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I disagree with your stated order of the FTs if he is the defensive coach.

I disagree with who you say will take the 2FTs for the intentional technical if he is the offensive coach.

Thanks, I fixed them later. You're right.