Bonehead call
 

I guess I had a brain fart. Team A had the ball and team B's coach called a timeout. My partner thinks thought this should be a technical but I can't find it in the rule book. Lil help?

And where does he get the idea that it should be a technical foul?
Case play 5.8.3E, swallow your pride and grant the timeout. :) We've all done it.

this was a discussion I started earlier.

Once you grant a time out, even erroneously, it cannot be taken back. Charge the coach with a time out and start the time out period.

After time out, start the ball out-of-bounds closest to the spot of the ball when play was dead, and give the ball back to the team who had possession.

Did you grant it or ignore it?

Do not beat yourself up; we have all probably done something like this at one time or another.

Heck last night one of my partners (and a good friend) blew his whistle to stop play after a FT to bring in a sub. Then he yelled "SUUUUUBBB!!!" and no one was at the table. My other partner (another good friend of his and mine) started laughing at him big time without losing it all together. Because everyone was looking around trying to figure out who was at the table. And we clowned on him the entire way back from the game about what he did.

To his credit this was a doubleheader and this happen during the JV game. One of the kids started to go off the bench and go up some stairs to go with the varsity team. He saw this and assumed this player was going in the game. But when he blew the whistle, the kid was long gone (up the stair and out the gym). And this is a very experienced official and we had a very good laugh about the situation. You have to be able to laugh at yourself and have fun sometimes.
:D

Peace

You could make this into an accidental whistle if you know you were wrong immediately. But by rule if you grant the timeout incorrectly, you have to live with it.

Peace

It's an epidemic! :eek:

And once you've blown the whistle, even though it's an IW, the ball is dead and either team may request and be granted a time out. So once you've blown the whistle, you're stuck with it.

And if you don't charge B with the timeout, you've potentially given them an advantage without having to pay the proper price.

It could be a T, if B was already out of timeouts.......

Ah, but that would not be "this" (from the OP).

Sort of happened to me last night.

Visitor's coach is yelling "5-out, 5-out" but I hear "Time Out." It was his last time out with about 1:30 to go in game. They are up by 10 points.

He gives me a strange look and I said "Coach that's your last time out." Scorer says, "Coach said 5 out." Nevertheless he got a time out. Next time down the court he yells "6 out." I'm not confused this time!

Lesson learned (I hope)... Coach needs to use better commands and I need to look at the coach before I call the TO.

I have been fooled by the "5 Out" play as well. But in this case, if you really just misheard the coach and he never actually did request a timeout, and he doesn't want one, you can just play on at POI. Don't charge the guy for a timeout because you can't hear. ;)

I've had that happen before. You should not charge him with a time out because of your error (unless he requests one during the dead ball time). Own up to it and be honest about it. ESPECIALLY since your scorer confirmed that he was not requesting a time out...

I actaully think I would of done this. But he did not say a thing to me; he just took the time out. The way it was going with this guy, (first game was an A game and I gave him a T) I was surprised he didn't complain. But his B team was winning and it was almost over.

Everybody's had this happen. I would not force a time out on the coach if he didn't request one: it's an IW, go to POI and play on.

Had a coach a few years back at the JV level tell me before the game that he had a play called "Tide Out" and that it might sound like "Time Out". I wish he would have listened to himself and realized that he was not making things easy on himself. Obviously, it had been a problem before and he did not change the name of the play.

in that case you should tell him that based on that I may not hear him ask for a legit time out... so don't get mad at me when I don't give it to you... you're calling a play - so I would strongly suggest you change it or I'm probably going to miss your request. Merry Christmas!

I figured if he looked stupid long enough he would figure it out on his own. I am not going to get into discussions about his play names. Actually, the JVB coach with the play called "Fuschia" was worse. I am sure his players cringed every time he called it.

Side Out ???
 

5.8.3 SITUATION E: A1 is dribbling the ball in his/her backcourt when: (a) the
Team B head coach requests and is erroneously granted a time-out by an official;
or (b) the Team A head coach is yelling “side out” offensive instructions to his/her
team and the official stops play believing the coach requested a time-out. RULING:
In (a), Team B is entitled to use the time-out since it was requested and
granted; once granted it cannot be revoked and is charged to Team B. All privileges
and rights permitted during a charged time-out are available to both teams.
Play will resume with a Team A throw-in nearest to where play was stopped. In
(b), an accidental whistle has occurred. Team A was not requesting a time-out,
and therefore, should not be granted or charged with one. Play is resumed at the
point of interruption. (4-36-1; 4-36-2a)

And what about NCAA? Thought the rule/case was same but can't seem to find it.

This happens to all of us. In heated situations near the end of a game, we want to grant the time out as soon as possible sometimes. We just have to slow down, make sure the head coach is calling the time out, and make sure his team has player control. 3 seconds could go by in this time.

I have seen this happen in D1 college games
 

The coach gave a signal like a triangle to designate a play he wanted ran and the official thought he was giving the time out signal and blew his whistle giving him a time out. The coach says no I was calling a play I wasn't calling time out so they disregard the time out and put the ball in play again and resume play. I have seen this happen more than once.

That's not the OP. OP was a coach actually requesting a TO at a time when he was not truly allowed to have one. It should be ignored, but if it's granted by error, it should be granted.

Unless you did what I did the other night and grant a timeout that I was convinced that I heard but clearly knew I screwed up. I have no problem if people when people go with an IW if they clearly messed up. But if the coach or player is calling for a timeout and is not in the right situation to have one, that is a different story.

Peace