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Zoochy Mon Dec 14, 2009 09:47pm

Numbers
 
I do not have my book with me. Are numbers allowed on Headbands, Wristbands, or Socks?
I seem to recall that numbers can only reside on the front and back of a jersey.
Can numbers be on shorts?

tjones1 Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:05pm

3-6-1
One visible manufacturer's logo/trademark/reference or school logo/mascot is permitted on wristbands, headband and compression shorts.

Zoochy Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:14pm

Thanks Tanner
I can give that information to the crew working the game I am watching.

tjones1 Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:19pm

To add, (forgot you asked about socks and shorts)...

There are no restrictions on socks.

3-4-5
Uniform pants/skirts shall adhere to the following:
a. One one visible manufacturer's logo/trademark/reference is permitted. See 3-6-2 for size requirements.

Zoochy Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:26pm

OK... you mention manufacturer's logo/trademark/reference or school logo/mascot. But numbers do not fall into that catagory.

tjones1 Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:36pm

I agree.

Zoochy Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:47pm

Therefore, numbers are only allowed on the front and back of the jersey.
Right? :)

tjones1 Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:00pm

I'm not sure I agree with that...

It states in 3-4-3
Numbers shall adhere to the following:
a. Team jerseys shall include the team member's number, which shall be at least 6 inches high on the back and at least 4 inches high on the front and not less that 3/4 inch in width excluding the border
b. The numbers(s) shall be centered vertically and horizontally.
c. The numbers(s) on the front and back of the team jersey sall be the same color and style.
d. Each team member shall be numbered on the front and back of the team jersey with plain Arabic numerals. The following numbers are legal: (omitted).
e. No more than three colors.........

By that, they must be on the team jersey; however, I don't think they are restricted to only the jersey.

SamIAm Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 642660)
OK... you mention manufacturer's logo/trademark/reference or school logo/mascot. But numbers do not fall into that catagory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 642664)
Therefore, numbers are only allowed on the front and back of the jersey.
Right? :)

Unless the trademark or logo is a number. Personally, I would try to avoid being fashion police if reasonably possible. It does seem very reasonable for a manufacturer or supplier to use a number as a logo.

ChrisSportsFan Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 642655)
Thanks Tanner
I can give that information to the crew working the game I am watching.

G- do you think the crew you are watching is hoping you will give them that info?

bob jenkins Tue Dec 15, 2009 02:01pm

3-5-3d: "A headband ... must be ... unadorned."

2008-2009 Interps: SITUATION 3: The home team wishes to honor a teammate by putting his/her initials on the headbands and wristbands worn by the team. RULING: Illegal; headbands and wristbands must be unadorned. The only permissible adornment is either one manufacturer's logo or the school mascot/logo. The illegal items must be removed or made legal in order for a team member to participate. The initials may be put in the side insert or above the neckline of the team jersey. (3-5-3b, c; 3-4-2c)

Zoochy Tue Dec 15, 2009 03:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSportsFan (Post 642735)
G- do you think the crew you are watching is hoping you will give them that info?

Ha ha, you funny! I know you would not listen to me! :confused:
This was just an observation on my part. While I am in the stands, I would never volunteer my knowledge onto another person. I guess that if I officiate this team, then I will have to be the one to tell them they can not wear 'Green' headbands with their 'White' jerseys. Nor can they wear the number on the head band if the other requirements abide by the rules.
I would make this observation available to the referee. Let him/her address the coach.

chseagle Tue Dec 15, 2009 03:11pm

Can anyone give a justified reason why only specific numbers are allowed & others are not?

According to the NFHS 2009-2010 Basketball Uniform Information, the legal numbers are: 00, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, & 55. Also that a team can't have a 0 & a 00.

Why aren't numbers 6,7, 8, & 9 allowed, either a standalone number, a beginning numer, or an ending number?

bob jenkins Tue Dec 15, 2009 03:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 642773)
Can anyone give a justified reason why only specific numbers are allowed & others are not?

According to the NFHS 2009-2010 Basketball Uniform Information, the legal numbers are: 00, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, & 55. Also that a team can't have a 0 & a 00.

Why aren't numbers 6,7, 8, & 9 allowed, either a standalone number, a beginning numer, or an ending number?

0 - 5: One handed reporting.

0 & 00: Both used to be allowed, but some computer scorebooks couldn't tell the difference so now only one is allowed.

Zoochy Tue Dec 15, 2009 03:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 642773)
Can anyone give a justified reason why only specific numbers are allowed & others are not?

According to the NFHS 2009-2010 Basketball Uniform Information, the legal numbers are: 00, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, & 55. Also that a team can't have a 0 & a 00.

Why aren't numbers 6,7, 8, & 9 allowed, either a standalone number, a beginning numer, or an ending number?

Most normal people do not have 6, 7, 8, or 9 fingers on one hand.
0 and 00 are the same number per computer talk.

tjones1 Tue Dec 15, 2009 03:23pm

Right, so no to headband and wristband but socks and shorts are permitted.

Ahh computer talk i.e. binary. LOL Here come the binary jokes!!

ChrisSportsFan Tue Dec 15, 2009 03:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 642772)
Ha ha, you funny! I know you would not listen to me! :confused:
This was just an observation on my part. While I am in the stands, I would never volunteer my knowledge onto another person. I guess that if I officiate this team, then I will have to be the one to tell them they can not wear 'Green' headbands with their 'White' jerseys. Nor can they wear the number on the head band if the other requirements abide by the rules.
I would make this observation available to the referee. Let him/her address the coach.

Green headbands are a bit more of a bigger dealer.
All I'm saying is do you think you need to be going to other officials and letting them know what they are missing? Why/when did this become your responsibility?

biggravy Tue Dec 15, 2009 03:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 642773)
Can anyone give a justified reason why only specific numbers are allowed & others are not?

According to the NFHS 2009-2010 Basketball Uniform Information, the legal numbers are: 00, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, & 55. Also that a team can't have a 0 & a 00.

Why aren't numbers 6,7, 8, & 9 allowed, either a standalone number, a beginning numer, or an ending number?

Because most of us only have five digits per hand.

j51969 Tue Dec 15, 2009 04:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggravy (Post 642786)
Because most of us only have five digits per hand.

Speak for yourself I was born in the 60's. Mom and dad well enough said:)

Zoochy Tue Dec 15, 2009 04:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSportsFan (Post 642780)
Green headbands are a bit more of a bigger dealer.
All I'm saying is do you think you need to be going to other officials and letting them know what they are missing? Why/when did this become your responsibility?

You are correct. It is not my responsibility. I am not a State observer. It is a delicate path to walk.
Watch out. You may be officiating a game when this situation occurs. They just started wearing these head bands.

Ch1town Tue Dec 15, 2009 05:48pm

Zoochy - Not that you asked me or anything, but I've found that addressing my concerns on a game I'm not working, in the form of a question (in a please help me out sorta way) rarley hurts.

BillyMac Tue Dec 15, 2009 08:48pm

You Asked For It ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 642779)
Here come the binary jokes!!

There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

BillyMac Tue Dec 15, 2009 08:52pm

You Mean 499 Out Of 500 Of Us ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biggravy (Post 642786)
Because most of us only have five digits per hand.

http://thm-a04.yimg.com/image/9bece46c3e9f0612

mbyron Wed Dec 16, 2009 07:48am

Back by popular demand...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 642819)
There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

http://www.gearlog.com/images/9111.gif

tjones1 Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:39pm

Ha Ha.. mb, that's my favorite binary joke!!

I showed that to another EE who was over a project I was working on last August and he about cried. He added it to his collection on his jump drive. :D


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