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bas2456 Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:27am
Player Control?
 
Team A has 6 team fouls.

A1 is dribbling, and does the old push off with the arm. I call the foul. Is this a player control foul, therefore a non-shooting foul even though it's the 7th team foul?

StripesOhio Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:30am
Correct. There are no foul shots when the offense commits a foul.

mbyron Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:39am
Had that just last night. Table buzzed -- twice! -- to try to tell us we should be shooting 1-and-1 after partner called a TC foul.

BillyMac Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:21pm
NFHS (Not NCAA) ???
 
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Originally Posted by StripesOhio (Post 642236)
Correct. There are no foul shots when the offense commits a foul.
Illegal screen during a throwin?

Anchor Sun Dec 13, 2009 01:24pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 642254)
Illegal screen during a throwin?
No player or team control on a throw-in. Shoot the shots.

BillyMac Sun Dec 13, 2009 05:13pm
Bonus Coupon ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anchor (Post 642267)
No player or team control on a throw-in. Shoot the shots.
... if the defensive team's in the bonus.

BktBallRef Sun Dec 13, 2009 05:18pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by StripesOhio (Post 642236)
Correct. There are no foul shots when there's a team or player control foul.
There...fixed it for ya! :)

Thumper68 Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:12am
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 642241)
Had that just last night. Table buzzed -- twice! -- to try to tell us we should be shooting 1-and-1 after partner called a TC foul.
You must of had Monk working the table. :eek:

Hartsy Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:44am
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Originally Posted by Anchor (Post 642267)
No player or team control on a throw-in. Shoot the shots.
True, no team control, but we do still have offense and defense during a throw in, so there can be a foul on the offense that might lead to free throws.

Mark Padgett Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:49am
Quote:
Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 642235)
Team A has 6 team fouls.

A1 is dribbling, and does the old push off with the arm. I call the foul. Is this a player control foul, therefore a non-shooting foul even though it's the 7th team foul?
I'm just curious as to why you are unsure if this is a player control foul. Player control is defined as a player dribbling or holding a live ball inbounds. You said A1 is dribbling, the ball is live, he is inbounds and he commits a foul. What would make you suspect anything different? Please explain. Thanks. :)

Adam Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:10pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 642235)
Team A has 6 team fouls.

A1 is dribbling, and does the old push off with the arm. I call the foul. Is this a player control foul, therefore a non-shooting foul even though it's the 7th team foul?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 642496)
I'm just curious as to why you are unsure if this is a player control foul. Player control is defined as a player dribbling or holding a live ball inbounds. You said A1 is dribbling, the ball is live, he is inbounds and he commits a foul. What would make you suspect anything different? Please explain. Thanks. :)
Good question. "Player control" doens't just apply to "block/charge" situations.

bas2456 Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:42pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 642496)
I'm just curious as to why you are unsure if this is a player control foul. Player control is defined as a player dribbling or holding a live ball inbounds. You said A1 is dribbling, the ball is live, he is inbounds and he commits a foul. What would make you suspect anything different? Please explain. Thanks. :)
I was 95% sure that it was player control, just making doubly sure. I got the call right in the game, just making sure for future reference


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