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DaveRef Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:31pm

throw-in question
 
After a made basket by team A, B1 has the ball behind the endline for a throw in. B2 is also out of bounds behind the endline. I know that B1 and B2 can pass the ball between each other, but can it be a bounce pass or is it not allowed to contact the floor?

BktBallRef Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveRef (Post 641884)
After a made basket by team A, B1 has the ball behind the endline for a throw in. B2 is also out of bounds behind the endline. I know that B1 and B2 can pass the ball between each other, but can it be a bounce pass or is it not allowed to contact the floor?

Yes, it can be a bounce pass.

mbyron Sat Dec 12, 2009 08:52am

This question seems to be part of the myth that the ball cannot hit the floor on a pass or dribble during a throw-in.

BillyMac Sat Dec 12, 2009 08:58am

Did I Hear Somebody Say "Myth" ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 641973)
This question seems to be part of the myth that the ball cannot hit the floor on a pass or dribble during a throw-in.

A player inbounding the ball may bounce the ball on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throwin. After a goal, or awarded goal, the team not credited with the score shall make the throw-in from any point outside the end line. A team retains this “run the endline” privilege if a timeout is called during the dead ball period after the goal. Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate outside the boundary line.

Freddy Sat Dec 12, 2009 01:31pm

Hut...Hut...Hut???
 
Can that pass to a teammate out-of-bounds be a handoff? Saw it Thursday nite and it led me to consider that the definition of a pass (4-31) seems to preclude a handoff. Any insights?

Adam Sat Dec 12, 2009 01:37pm

Is there a rule that prohibits a handoff? No.

Freddy Sat Dec 12, 2009 01:56pm

Handoff = Pass ?
 
Is there a rule which allows a handoff out-of-bounds? No.
What I mean is this: if a pass between teammates OOB is allowed, and the definition of a pass does not include handing it off, then a handoff between teammates would not be legal.
My only problem with this logic is that we would certainly permit a handoff inbounds between teammates, therefore it seems we should permit it while out-of-bounds.
Perhaps I'm trying to be too literal with the definition of a pass. And I always get inquisitive when definitions seem fuzzy.

APG Sat Dec 12, 2009 02:02pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 642033)
Is there a rule which allows a handoff out-of-bounds? No.
What I mean is this: if a pass between teammates OOB is allowed, and the definition of a pass does not include handing it off, then a handoff between teammates would not be legal.
My only problem with this logic is that we would certainly permit a handoff inbounds between teammates, therefore it seems we should permit it while out-of-bounds.
Perhaps I'm trying to be too literal with the definition of a pass. And I always get inquisitive when definitions seem fuzzy.

The only restriction on hand offs is that you can not hand off a throw-in. Besides that, if two teammates want to roll, throw, hand the ball off to each other out of bounds, more power to them. Just get it all done with within five seconds.

mbyron Sun Dec 13, 2009 09:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 642033)
Is there a rule which allows a handoff out-of-bounds? No.
What I mean is this: if a pass between teammates OOB is allowed, and the definition of a pass does not include handing it off, then a handoff between teammates would not be legal.
My only problem with this logic is that we would certainly permit a handoff inbounds between teammates, therefore it seems we should permit it while out-of-bounds.
Perhaps I'm trying to be too literal with the definition of a pass. And I always get inquisitive when definitions seem fuzzy.

In general, if it's not prohibited it's legal.

The only reason to worry about a handoff here would be that you have an OOB player touching the ball. But since it's a throw-in, he's allowed to touch the ball. So there's just no grounds, AFAIK, for disallowing a handoff.

Freddy Sun Dec 13, 2009 07:15pm

Got It
 
Agree. Handoff ok.


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