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just another ref Sat Dec 12, 2009 01:28am
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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 641923)
I've read your post three times now. I still have no clue what you're getting at. But I don't really care. I gave a kid his fifth foul tonight. It was a good one. So were the other four.
So you treated all five alike. I'm all for that.

JRutledge Sat Dec 12, 2009 01:46am
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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 641923)
I've read your post three times now. I still have no clue what you're getting at. But I don't really care. I gave a kid his fifth foul tonight. It was a good one. So were the other four.
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 641926)
So you treated all five alike. I'm all for that.
I fouled out a player tonight as well. And when I called that foul, I made sure it was there. Just like I made sure every other call I made that night near the end of the game was there. And no I do not treat all parts of the game the same, because they are not treated the same by everyone participating. But then again I have been told I have pretty good judgment, so it is not hard for me to focus near the end of the game and call what is truly there instead of what might not be there or is terrible. But that is me, it may not be you.

Peace

mbyron Sat Dec 12, 2009 08:50am
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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 641827)
Are you guys being pedantic? :cool:
Why, are you anti-pedantic? :D

Sometimes a well-placed distinction permits people to see that an apparent disagreement is really about different concepts, which allows both sides to be right about their own concept. Then everybody wins. :)

just another ref Sat Dec 12, 2009 02:51pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 641930)
I fouled out a player tonight as well. And when I called that foul, I made sure it was there. Just like I made sure every other call I made that night near the end of the game was there. And no I do not treat all parts of the game the same, because they are not treated the same by everyone participating. But then again I have been told I have pretty good judgment, so it is not hard for me to focus near the end of the game and call what is truly there instead of what might not be there or is terrible. But that is me, it may not be you.

Peace
I fouled out several players last night. Wasn't aware, until after the fact, that any of the players had four. Nobody complained on any of them. So, did I make a point of making sure the fifth fouls were "good ones?" No. It just took care of itself, as it should.

just another ref Sat Dec 12, 2009 02:52pm
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 641972)
Why, are you anti-pedantic? :D

Sometimes a well-placed distinction permits people to see that an apparent disagreement is really about different concepts, which allows both sides to be right about their own concept. Then everybody wins. :)
All I can say is: Huh?:)

JRutledge Sat Dec 12, 2009 03:15pm
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 642047)
I fouled out several players last night. Wasn't aware, until after the fact, that any of the players had four. Nobody complained on any of them. So, did I make a point of making sure the fifth fouls were "good ones?" No. It just took care of itself, as it should.
And I knew last night and it has been an issue in the past. So what changed by using your logic? Absolutely nothing. And that is the point. ;)

Peace

just another ref Sat Dec 12, 2009 04:21pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 642054)
And I knew last night and it has been an issue in the past.
What, specifically, has been an issue?

JRutledge Sat Dec 12, 2009 04:36pm
Have you been reading this thread?
 
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 642064)
What, specifically, has been an issue?
Do not worry about it. Do what you do and I will do what I do. ;)

Peace

BillyMac Sat Dec 12, 2009 07:16pm
Just Like That "Guns Don't Kill People..." Saying ...
 
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 642047)
I fouled out several players last night.
Officials don't foul out players. Players foul out.

just another ref Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:01pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 641930)
I fouled out a player tonight as well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 642047)
I fouled out several players last night.
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 642099)
Officials don't foul out players. Players foul out.
Just tryin' to speak the language. It's a challenge.

Back In The Saddle Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:50pm
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 642116)
Just tryin' to speak the language. It's a challenge.
Just don't use the word "baseline". I made that mistake once and I'm still in physical therapy. :eek:


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