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fullor30 Thu Dec 10, 2009 09:25am

Thoughts on when to whistle
 
I'm of the ilk that if there is an unusual delay resuming play, I'm giving a short toot before disposal to inbounder. Someone recently said no, strictly for the start of a quarter, or after a timeout. Again, it needs to be quite a delay.

Bad habit?

Hartsy Thu Dec 10, 2009 09:30am

I'm pretty sure I read in one of the NFHS manuals that a "ready to play" whistle is recommended after any appreciable delay, like an injury, conference with table crew, etc.

Ref_in_Alberta Thu Dec 10, 2009 09:33am

I use the same tactic for the same reasoning. I haven't heard anyone say not to... seems like good game management to me.

Robert E. Harrison Thu Dec 10, 2009 09:33am

Any Delay
 
My thoughts are have a whistle if there is any delay in putting the ball in play. That lets everyone know whats happening and it usually wakes up one of my partners.:eek:

bob jenkins Thu Dec 10, 2009 09:37am

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 641253)
I'm of the ilk that if there is an unusual delay resuming play, I'm giving a short toot before disposal to inbounder. Someone recently said no, strictly for the start of a quarter, or after a timeout. Again, it needs to be quite a delay.

Bad habit?


"Someone" is wrong.

Ignats75 Thu Dec 10, 2009 09:53am

Any time there is a significant delay, I will blow the whistle.

fullor30 Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:10am

Officials manual 2.2

tjones1 Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:24pm

I do it too and you've pointed out the reference.

The only way I'd change is if your supervisor or state office said otherwise.

Clark Kent Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:44pm

OM 2.2A8 says "The administering official shall sound the whistle to indicate play is about to begin only following a charged time-out, an intermission or an unusual delay"

What do we deem an "unusual delay"?

I agree with those above and will most likely continue to blow before I inbound the ball (especially in the front court) on every inbounds unless told contrary by a supervisor/assignor.

Mark Padgett Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:47pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 641253)
I'm of the ilk that if there is an unusual delay resuming play, I'm giving a short toot before disposal to inbounder.

Stop eating beans before the game and that won't happen. ;)

bradfordwilkins Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:49pm

I whistle before handing the ball for an inbound on the baseline - thats a pro mechanic that has seeped into my HS games.

constable Thu Dec 10, 2009 01:34pm

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Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 641342)
OM 2.2A8 says "The administering official shall sound the whistle to indicate play is about to begin only following a charged time-out, an intermission or an unusual delay"

What do we deem an "unusual delay"?

I agree with those above and will most likely continue to blow before I inbound the ball (especially in the front court) on every inbounds unless told contrary by a supervisor/assignor.

a fox40 everytime you in bound the ball might be deemed a bit excessive- especially when the manual says time out, intermission, or other unusual delay...

Adam Thu Dec 10, 2009 01:52pm

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Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 641342)
OM 2.2A8 says "The administering official shall sound the whistle to indicate play is about to begin only following a charged time-out, an intermission or an unusual delay"

What do we deem an "unusual delay"?

I agree with those above and will most likely continue to blow before I inbound the ball (especially in the front court) on every inbounds unless told contrary by a supervisor/assignor.

Those two statements are contradictory.

fullor30 Thu Dec 10, 2009 03:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 641342)
OM 2.2A8 says "The administering official shall sound the whistle to indicate play is about to begin only following a charged time-out, an intermission or an unusual delay"

What do we deem an "unusual delay"?

I agree with those above and will most likely continue to blow before I inbound the ball (especially in the front court) on every inbounds unless told contrary by a supervisor/assignor.


:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

fullor30 Thu Dec 10, 2009 03:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradfordwilkins (Post 641345)
I whistle before handing the ball for an inbound on the baseline - thats a pro mechanic that has seeped into my HS games.


Where's the baseline?;)

Back In The Saddle Thu Dec 10, 2009 03:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 641342)
OM 2.2A8 says "The administering official shall sound the whistle to indicate play is about to begin only following a charged time-out, an intermission or an unusual delay"

What do we deem an "unusual delay"?

I agree with those above and will most likely continue to blow before I inbound the ball (especially in the front court) on every inbounds unless told contrary by a supervisor/assignor.

You'll know an unusual delay when one occurs.

As for the whistle on the end line inbounds, it's a NCAA-W mechanic, and apparently a pro mechanic as well. I did it for a while in my HS games, and it didn't cause problems. I don't do it now, and I have the same lack of problems. So I'm going to stick with not in my HS games.

When in Rome.

tjones1 Thu Dec 10, 2009 03:40pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 641413)
Where's the baseline?;)

On a baseball field. :D

Ignats75 Thu Dec 10, 2009 03:48pm

Chris Squire used to read one when he played music with Yes.

Adam Thu Dec 10, 2009 03:49pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 641413)
Where's the baseline?;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 641420)
On a baseball field. :D

Or a polygraph test.

j51969 Thu Dec 10, 2009 03:51pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 641431)
Or a polygraph test.

Or a crack house

Adam Thu Dec 10, 2009 03:58pm

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Originally Posted by j51969 (Post 641433)
Or a crack house

Hmmmm. Must be an Army thing.

BillyMac Thu Dec 10, 2009 08:06pm

Wrong Forum ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 641413)
Where's the baseline?

You mean the white line from home plate to first base?

BillyMac Thu Dec 10, 2009 08:08pm

I Believe We're Supposed To Do It, According To The Manual ???
 
After a timeout, how many of us sound the whistle before a free throw? Nobody here in Connecticut.

APG Thu Dec 10, 2009 08:56pm

I'm in the school of whistling all endline throw-ins in the frontcourt as well as after timeouts, intermissions, and usual delays.

As far as whistling after timeouts when resuming with free throws, I've never seen it done nor have been told to do so.

tagamanny Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:27pm

I blow my whistle whenever I feel there is some kind of delay or to let everybody know that its time to play on...time management.

JRutledge Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:32pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 641264)
Officials manual 2.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 641328)
I do it too and you've pointed out the reference.

The only way I'd change is if your supervisor or state office said otherwise.

And for the record that reference means little or nothing in Illinois (We do not use any NF Official’s Manuals anymore). I would listen to a (state) clinician or a particular supervisor. That being said I know officials that use the whistle more often than this and it is not a big deal. Always listen to your supervisor first, and then default to what is common and what is accepted.

Peace

JRutledge Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:33pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 641515)
After a timeout, how many of us sound the whistle before a free throw? Nobody here in Connecticut.

I have only seen one official do this in my career and I asked him why?

Peace

Adam Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:01pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 641536)
I have only seen one official do this in my career and I asked him why?

Peace

Because it's in the manual. :)

JRutledge Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:27am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 641539)
Because it's in the manual. :)

One the many reasons we do not use that dumb thing anymore. ;)

Peace

Adam Fri Dec 11, 2009 08:29am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 641553)
One the many reasons we do not use that dumb thing anymore. ;)

Peace

FWIW (-$.02?), I don't do it either and no one around here does it that I've seen.

chartrusepengui Fri Dec 11, 2009 09:03am

We have to take a flippin' test on the thing.:(


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