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RefLarry Sun Dec 06, 2009 09:14pm

Rule 9 Section 2 Throw-in Provisions
 
Team A scores. B1 grabs the ball after it goes throught the basket. B1 steps with one foot out of bounds and keeps the other foot inbounds continuously. B1 then passes the ball to B2 (who has both feet inbounds) who is walking toward and facing B1. B2 steps out of bounds with intentions to become the thower. B2 steps out of bounds with both feet and inbounds the ball promptly.

Is this play legal?

referee99 Sun Dec 06, 2009 09:55pm

Not uncommon.
 
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Originally Posted by RefLarry (Post 640150)
Team A scores. B1 grabs the ball after it goes throught the basket. B1 steps with one foot out of bounds and keeps the other foot inbounds continuously. B1 then passes the ball to B2 (who has both feet inbounds) who is walking toward and facing B1. B2 steps out of bounds with intentions to become the thower. B2 steps out of bounds with both feet and inbounds the ball promptly.

Is this play legal?

But what was going on here?

Was the player who stepped out of bound making a throw-in pass or giving the ball to a teammate to make the throw-in pass? Or both?

Sometimes A1 is making a throw-in, and A2 thinks they are giving the ball to them to make the throw-in and they commit a traveling violation or an OOB violation.

This is why they pay us the big bucks! To sort it all out.

fullor30 Sun Dec 06, 2009 09:55pm

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Originally Posted by RefLarry (Post 640150)
Team A scores. B1 grabs the ball after it goes throught the basket. B1 steps with one foot out of bounds and keeps the other foot inbounds continuously. B1 then passes the ball to B2 (who has both feet inbounds) who is walking toward and facing B1. B2 steps out of bounds with intentions to become the thower. B2 steps out of bounds with both feet and inbounds the ball promptly.

Is this play legal?


Judgement call IMHO, seems as you describe it, B2 was clearly going to inbound from the get go. I'm going to guess this was some 5-6-7th grade girls game. I'd have to see it.

BillyMac Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:26pm

The Land Of Steady Habits, And High Game Fees ...
 
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Originally Posted by referee99 (Post 640163)
This is why they pay us the big bucks!

I didn't know that you officiated in Connecticut?

referee99 Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:35am

No...
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 640173)
I didn't know that you officiated in Connecticut?

.... but snow and freezing cold are never an issue in Cali.

(ironically, we are due to have snow on the peaks around the Bay Area tonight and tomorrow!)

mbyron Mon Dec 07, 2009 08:22am

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Originally Posted by RefLarry (Post 640150)
Team A scores. B1 grabs the ball after it goes throught the basket. B1 steps with one foot out of bounds and keeps the other foot inbounds continuously. B1 then passes the ball to B2 (who has both feet inbounds) who is walking toward and facing B1. B2 steps out of bounds with intentions to become the thower. B2 steps out of bounds with both feet and inbounds the ball promptly.

Is this play legal?

You can answer this question yourself: provided you're judging that B2 will inbound the ball, what you're observing is B1 and B2 passing a dead ball.

So: what restrictions do the rules place on teammates passing a dead ball?

Nevadaref Mon Dec 07, 2009 05:18pm

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Originally Posted by referee99 (Post 640208)
.... but snow and freezing cold are never an issue in Cali.

(ironically, we are due to have snow on the peaks around the Bay Area tonight and tomorrow!)

Shut up.

14" of the white stuff up here over the past 24 hours.

RefLarry Mon Dec 07, 2009 07:54pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 640164)
Judgement call IMHO, seems as you describe it, B2 was clearly going to inbound from the get go. I'm going to guess this was some 5-6-7th grade girls game. I'd have to see it.

You are correct. It was a 7th grade girls game. B2 seemed like she intended to get the ball from B1 to inbound it. I wasn't sure if intent was a factor but from the responses here intent is very important.

Thanks for the replies.

Back In The Saddle Mon Dec 07, 2009 08:24pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 640444)
Shut up.

14" of the white stuff up here over the past 24 hours.

Just about that much here. I've shoveled twice today, and each time it needed shoveling again when I was done. Grrrr.


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