White and black or greys
 

Started a new association and was wondering if we could wear greys. Have seen others doing it. does anyone have any details or info on weather it is OK or not?:cool:

It depends on your state and how you want to run your association. One board I used to belong to wore grey shirts, complete with integrated IAABO patch. Once the state tournament started, those officials had to wear black and white.

Illinois doesn't allow them (greys). Only the standard black and white shirt (no panels).

I sure there are others, but the only state I know that allows them is Flordia.

Montana also allows the grays or black and whites. For a while the state was going to use only grays, but that has been pushed back and I would say most use the black and whites.

what state enitity do you contact about that?

Whoever governs your particular area, presumably the Alaska High School Activities Association. I'm assuming they are the ones who certify officials and make post season decisions.

Stripes here in Ohio, but that said, I really prefer gray. I think it looks classy.

MTD, Sr.

Now we need a discussion as to whether one likes GRAY or GREY. :D

MTD, Sr.

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I figured that mbyron would start that discussion.

FLORIDA allows them at local assn. level as well as through the state tournament. Personally, I prefer the stripes...makes it easier to locate partners on a crowded floor, but that's just me.

North Carolina

Do you not have a state high athletic assoication? :confused:

Billy:

I bet he prefers the shirts with the Bryon collar. :D

MTD, Sr.

Yes we do.:rolleyes: Just trying figure out, if and how, anyone else took steps to wear the greys. Can a association adopt them without going through the state? Just looking for some insite or help. thanks

Again, every state is different. In many, the state association sets the rules on what officials may wear. I'm sure that's not true everywhere.

I'd start with contacting your state association.

I'd check with this group. I'm sure they'd be able to get you your answer.

Official Homepage of Anchorage Sports Official's Assocation

I think the myth that people keep holding on to is that the NF has oversight over their officials. They do not have that kind of power. The NF is only as strong as the states allow them to be. There is no one size fits all answer. If your state or organization wants to use a different shirt, they can do that. The only ramifications are when the overseeing body (not the NF) says it is not OK. All I know is my state the IHSA dictates all these things. The NF has absolutely no say over what our officials do. And even local associations have no say. The IHSA licenses us and we pay dues to that organization to be allowed to work for their membership. I am sure this works similarly in your area, even if it is not decided at the state level.

Peace

been there, done that.:D my original and still part of association

What Rut says is absolutely true. The NFHS has no formal "power". Most state athletic associations recognize the NFHS as the ruling body and therefore use the NFHS rules. But many of them still exempt themselves from certain aspects of those rules.

This would apply to what officials wear, and is why nobody on this board can answer the question (unless they also live in the same state/work for the same association and know the answer).

just tryin to understand what steps if any they took to get it done. Doesn;t matter if they are in my area or if they work for my association. Does this mean we can make up our own dress code?

Again, I don't know if you can make up your own dress code. It depends on whether your association has the authority to make its own call on things like that. If not, then it is likely up to your state association to make that call.

I'm starting to get confused as to what the question actually is.

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Another straight line for Mark Padgett?

Allowed here in ND. I never liked them. I think they make you look like someone who is driving a golf cart at a tournament. There is something to be said for tradition and the credibility that one gains from a traditional uniform. When we change uniforms (not only year to year, but week to week with BB shirts) it lessens our credibility. Now we've got grey, stripes with panels and regular stripes. Yikes!

Here, the grey is fading (pun intended) in its popularity. Most are going back to stripes.

Vermont has the gray as an alternate. Maine uses the gray exclusively. I believe New Hampshire does as well. Here in Florida as others have stated, the gray is used.

Back in the day, the shirts were gray, no stripes, a navy collar and a zippered front. That day was late 70s, so the zebra shirt is not necessarily the 'tradition'.

Maybe we should do a poll ;) :D

My first recollection of basketball games goes back to the late '50s. Now this was in northern Ohio and things may have been different elsewhere, but in HS ball I have never seen anything but stripes until the last few years when the gray became the latest fad. I have played, coached or officiated since 1959 and stripes are the traditional credible uniform in basketball for me. My first basketball game as an official was in 1973.

Here in Ontario it depends on what city you're in.

I've worn both- currently rocking the stripes but I think I prefer the feel of the polycool grey as opposed to the micromesh stripes....

It must also be noted that anything dealing with mechanics, official’s uniforms or procedures (outside of rules) the NF has absolutely no power in what a state or organization does. They do have say over rules applications and that is limited in that area if a state wants to use a specific interpretation or application of a very specific rule. So if a state or organization wants to wear a different uniform that would be their right to do so. Mary Struckoff has addressed this publicly at a conference I attended and she gave an example of a state that used a very different 2 Person mechanic that was not at all conventional or in the philosophy of the NF Official's Manual. She said the NF could do nothing about it.

Peace

we just wanted the option. If we felt like changing for a game of two. Just for something different. thanks for your input:)

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Connecticut was almost exclusively an IAABO state for boys basketball about thirty years ago. Gray jersey with a blue "Byron" collar, blue piping, and an IAABO "sewn on" (not embroidered) patch. Gray T-shirt. Choice of black, or blue, pants. Acme Thunderer whistle with a cork "pea". Black "shoelike" (not "sneakerlike") shoes with ripple soles that I got resoled by a local cobbler every few years. Optional blue IAABO jacket with gray crew neck collar and gray piping.

Can you hear Barbra Streisand singing in the background? "Memories, Like the corners of my mind, Misty watercolor memories, Of the way we were..."

Most if not all chapters in Texas that went with the UIL are now wearing gray's. Dallas is only wearing them for varsity and JV/varsity combos but I think most chapters have switched completely (or so I've heard). I don't know how many stayed with TASO and are (I assume) still wearing stripes for all their games.

I only prefer gray when its paired with scarlet. ;)

Padgett: the Ducks are goin down.

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I could care less what my state thinks. I will have to spend as much time kissing *** here since I move states as getting back into JUCO. So if one of my guys wants to where the grey so be it. Schools will assign officials who have there Sh!t together. State will assign the who they want for the tournament. Means absolutely nothing to me.

Here in Ohio, you work under the direction of the OHSAA. The greys are expressly forbidden as Mark Denucci so eloquently detailed previously.

In the Houston UIL chapter, we can only wear greys for the semi-finals and finals of varsity tournaments. For everything else, we must wear the stripes. This may change in the future but for now, that is the requirement.

I have no idea what the TASO chapter does.

I noticed you are from Illinois so you can do what you want, until someone writes you up and the IHSA revokes your license. Then the only thing you would be able to do is college and those supervisors are not all on the same page with those shirts either. You can do what you want, but there are consequences to anything like this. ;)

Peace

Fort Worth still wearing black & whites but lots of talk about switching to gray next year for varsity contests

Here in my part of Washington State, some were wearing Black & White, others wearing Grey last year. Over this next week, I'll have to ask the officials which one they prefer. If my memory serves me right however, for Regionals & State everyone was wearing the black & white last year.

go buckeyes!!! beat the ducks!!!

Some here are wearing the stripes, while others are wearing the grey. The crew last night had on the grey, but I've seen some on tv wearing the stripes.

Incorrect. The grey shirts are required for all State tournaments in WA, recommended for all District tournaments. Most associations in WA use the stripes for sub-varsity and the grey for varsity games. The overriding factor is that all wear the same in each game, of course, so if one doesn't have the grey, all wear the stripes.

Rockyroad,

I worked the 4A Regionals in Kennewick last year, most of the crews had grey, some had stripes. I have noticed via the news that some are stripes for Varsity contests. I've noticed that all the crew must be uniform for a game. The district I'm located in is District 5 (YVIAA), unsure what the local officials association is called. I have noticed that grey is becoming more prominent.

They are required at State...so they will probably slowly become the norm for most Varsity games - maybe even sub-varsity in the future.