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dand243 Mon Nov 23, 2009 01:39am

scrimmage question
 
hello everyone this is my first year as an official and i wanted to say hi and i also have a quick question. last week i did a scrimmage. it went for about 2.5 hours and i was wondering if i get paid for scrimmages. reason i ask is before we left me and the other officials asked the coach if we needed to fill something out and he said he wasnt given anything. so this to me means makes me think i dont but i heard at some you do. anyway any help would be nice. thanks

bas2456 Mon Nov 23, 2009 01:44am

I did one where the three varisty officials got paid, but I didn't because I volunteered to help myself by doing the scrimmage. The guys bought me pizza though afterwards.

Back In The Saddle Mon Nov 23, 2009 02:13am

Unfortunately your question does not have a standard answer. I did two HS scrimmages over the weekend. Friday's was for pay (G+B Varsity, each paid $20). Saturday's was purely for the love of the game (okay, not entirely, but there was no remuneration from the school). I did a college scrimmage a few weeks ago where we were "paid" a school logo t-shirt and ball cap.

To get an authoritative answer you'll need to direct your question to your local board/association leadership, or to whomever scheduled you to work the scrimmage.

JRutledge Mon Nov 23, 2009 03:18am

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Originally Posted by dand243 (Post 637643)
hello everyone this is my first year as an official and i wanted to say hi and i also have a quick question. last week i did a scrimmage. it went for about 2.5 hours and i was wondering if i get paid for scrimmages. reason i ask is before we left me and the other officials asked the coach if we needed to fill something out and he said he wasnt given anything. so this to me means makes me think i dont but i heard at some you do. anyway any help would be nice. thanks

Like said this is a very specific situation. In my area if and when you get paid is up to the school. There is no standard procedure or how you are paid can also vary so much that there is no real way to answer this question based on my experience. This is an issue between you and the school and maybe the assignor or association that gave you the game. All we can do is speculate, but it really is not going to help you in your situation other than sharing an experience.

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Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 637644)
I did one where the three varisty officials got paid, but I didn't because I volunteered to help myself by doing the scrimmage. The guys bought me pizza though afterwards.

I am glad we could help you get some work in. Good luck with the up coming season. :D

Peace

grunewar Mon Nov 23, 2009 06:11am

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Originally Posted by dand243 (Post 637643)
it went for about 2.5 hours and i was wondering if i get paid for scrimmages.

As others have said, it depends on where you're officiating. In our area, we don't get paid for our scrimmages.

For me, I treat it like a preseason camp and a necessary investment for the upcoming season. It gets my mind right and thinking hoops, gets me some instruction/critical review, wipes off the rust, and starts to get me back in basketball shape.

Thankfully, I don't have to travel far to do my games and our requirement is only three V scrimmages prior to the regular season - I usually do more (going on my fourth yr, I try to get as much work in with the vets as I can).

Good luck and have fun.

Raymond Mon Nov 23, 2009 09:07am

2.5 hours!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

In Virginia a scrimmage can be no longer than six (6) 8-minute quarters.

Mark Padgett Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:04pm

Does this sound familiar - "Never Assume"? It's your responsibility to find out the specifics of working any assignment, scrimmage or otherwise, prior to accepting. As others have said, there's no standard policy for this.

BillyMac Mon Nov 23, 2009 09:26pm

Always Thought It Was Felix Unger ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 637720)
Does this sound familiar - "Never Assume"?

“When you assume, you make an *** out of you and me.” (Oscar Wilde)

BktBallRef Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:54pm

Our scrimmages are two hours, we're required to work three, and the $50 goes to the association which uses it for training and observers.

Nevadaref Tue Nov 24, 2009 04:22am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 637880)
Our scrimmages are two hours, we're required to work three, and the $50 goes to the association which uses it for training and observers.

Seems like that should violate some laws and regulations for independent contractors.

archangel Tue Nov 24, 2009 09:04am

Scrimmages in my part of Ohio can go 3 hours if the coaches want, but thats rare. Pay is between $20-$30 depending on the school and level of play. The local BB associations dont have a minimum # of required games to do.
There are "foundation" games where, I believe, the host school gets a lump sum and the officials work for free..


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