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fullor30 Sun Nov 22, 2009 03:46pm

Picky, picky
 
Cover of Officials Quarterly from NFHS and ref is pointing with two fingers. I've been told at camps that's fine for the college guys but you're during high school. I would have thought that the fed publication would be a stickler on this especially for a cover shot.:confused:

That said, I do the same thing on occasion but am trying to break the habit.

Freddy Sun Nov 22, 2009 04:10pm

The Finger
 
Can you refresh us on what the cover showed him signalling? What was the sitch?
At camp (a pretty good camp emphasizing pure Fed mechanics) we've been taught, for instance, the "5-4-2" on a violation. 5 fingers (the open hand) accompanying the whistle to stop the clock, 4 fingers to indicate direction of the subsequent throw-in, 2 fingers to designate spot of the throw in.
What was he signalling with one finger?

mick Sun Nov 22, 2009 05:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 637586)
Can you refresh us on what the cover showed him signalling? What was the sitch?
At camp (a pretty good camp emphasizing pure Fed mechanics) we've been taught, for instance, the "5-4-2" on a violation. 5 fingers (the open hand) accompanying the whistle to stop the clock, 4 fingers to indicate direction of the subsequent throw-in, 2 fingers to designate spot of the throw in.
What was he signalling with one finger?

Saginaw or Central ?
Those are college refs saying that. ;)

zm1283 Sun Nov 22, 2009 05:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 637586)
Can you refresh us on what the cover showed him signalling? What was the sitch?
At camp (a pretty good camp emphasizing pure Fed mechanics) we've been taught, for instance, the "5-4-2" on a violation. 5 fingers (the open hand) accompanying the whistle to stop the clock, 4 fingers to indicate direction of the subsequent throw-in, 2 fingers to designate spot of the throw in.
What was he signalling with one finger?

It's a female official signaling a direction after an out of bounds call and she's using two fingers to point the direction.

I use one finger to signal direction and designate the spot for a throw in.

Freddy Sun Nov 22, 2009 06:47pm

Giving the Finger
 
Ah...the valuable little things discovered via this discussion board!
Sure enough, the mechanics pic in the NFHS Officials' Manual shows the faceless guy using one finger to point to the "designated spot".
Thank you for the above response which prompted me to check it out.
Three or four games from now, giving the finger will become automatic, kinda like "calling official stays tableside on shooting fouls". That's become automatic already.
Oh, the faceless guy seems to use five fingers for direction.
Maybe "When in Nome, do as the Nomans do", if one's supervisor is insistent on this?

bob jenkins Sun Nov 22, 2009 07:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 637586)
Can you refresh us on what the cover showed him signalling? What was the sitch?
At camp (a pretty good camp emphasizing pure Fed mechanics) we've been taught, for instance, the "5-4-2" on a violation. 5 fingers (the open hand) accompanying the whistle to stop the clock, 4 fingers to indicate direction of the subsequent throw-in, 2 fingers to designate spot of the throw in.
What was he signalling with one finger?

That's what I was taught the FED mechanics are. NCAA is 5-2-1.

Freddy Sun Nov 22, 2009 09:14pm

Never Argue with Bob
 
Bob, so are you saying you'd prefer I stay with the "5-4-2" for Fed?

mick Sun Nov 22, 2009 09:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 637619)
Bob, so are you saying you'd prefer I stay with the "5-4-2" for Fed?

That's what I'm gonna do, Freddy. :)

canuckrefguy Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:32pm

Well, at least the title of the thread is correct :rolleyes:

bob jenkins Mon Nov 23, 2009 09:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 637619)
Bob, so are you saying you'd prefer I stay with the "5-4-2" for Fed?

I have no preference as to what you do in SW Michigan. Nor, to be honest, do I factor this into any ratings of fellow officials in IL. I might mention it during observations of newer officials (but usually there are more important things to mention).

mick Mon Nov 23, 2009 09:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 637619)
Bob, so are you saying you'd prefer I stay with the "5-4-2" for Fed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 637679)
I have no preference as to what you do in SW Michigan. Nor, to be honest, do I factor this into any ratings of fellow officials in IL. I might mention it during observations of newer officials (but usually there are more important things to mention).

Answer the question.
Your audience awaits.

fullor30 Mon Nov 23, 2009 09:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 637615)
That's what I was taught the FED mechanics are. NCAA is 5-2-1.


I'll revisit photo and possibly she is pointing to spot. My point is more the choice of the photo with an incorrect mechanic when the fed is a stickler on these things.

Never heard the 5-4-2 reference. Like it.

bob jenkins Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick (Post 637685)
Answer the question.
Your audience awaits.

I thought I did answer it? :confused:


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