Drexel vs Niagra out of bounds play

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

You are correct, CLH, there were two plays near the end of the game where officials went to the monitor.

The first play happened on the sidline near the Drexel bench when a foul was called on a Niagara player (around 1:30 or so left in the game). The officials went to the monitor to look at the # of the player fouled to make sure they had the correct shooter.

The second play happened during a trap on near the endline in Niagara's backcourt. The Niagara player tried to throw the ball off of a Drexel player while falling out of bounds. His throw hit the endline and bounced up and hit him. The officials correctly gave the ball to Drexel and used the monitor to add approx. 4 seconds back on the clock after it was not stopped properly (which was a little odd seeing as the crew was using PTS).

The announcers thought the officials were using the monitor in the first play to see who was the last to touch the ball - which didn't matter because of the foul that was called.

As we all know, never trust what the announcer says or the "facts" when it comes to "second-hand information".....

There was a foul called? Granted I was doing some other things, but I thought there was just an out of bounds call. It was obvious to me that they were putting time on the clock. I never listen to announcers about what happens in a game.

I remember a few days ago the officials called a substitution timeout and the dumb announcers said they called a travel. And when they gave the ball back to the same team, the announcers never corrected the mistake. Listening to them is like expecting monkey to answer the ESPN Trivia questions right half the time.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There was a foul called? Granted I was doing some other things, but I thought there was just an out of bounds call. It was obvious to me that they were putting time on the clock. I never listen to announcers about what happens in a game.

I remember a few days ago the officials called a substitution timeout and the dumb announcers said they called a travel. And when they gave the ball back to the same team, the announcers never corrected the mistake. Listening to them is like expecting monkey to answer the ESPN Trivia questions right half the time.

Peace

And everyone knows the best a monkey can do is 25% on the ESPN Trivia questions.

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I remember a few days ago the officials called a substitution timeout and the dumb announcers said they called a travel. And when they gave the ball back to the same team, the announcers never corrected the mistake.
Peace

I remember this happening too. It was near the end of a Syracuse game that they won easily. I was going to bring it up here, but figured nobody saw it. The official who was running by Syr's bench did signal a travel. I'm thinking that maybe Jimmy Boeheim said something like "call a travel so I can get my walk-ons in" because he didn't want to take a time out. Any thoughts on this? Can time-outs be shortened in NCAA-M?

Still, you're right, the announcers never admitted a mistake. Of course it was under 2 minutes in a 20+ point blowout.

[Adam]

Some officials use the travel signal for a substitution timeout. I think they were volleyball officials in another life or something.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Some officials use the travel signal for a substitution timeout. I think they were volleyball officials in another life or something.

NCAA 5-13.14.b "When a request is made to shorten a timeout for a substitution(s), the signal for shortening a timeout shall be given and play shall be resumed immediately."

NCAAW has a specific signal for this. There's no similar signal shown for NCAAM.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

NCAA 5-13.14.b "When a request is made to shorten a timeout for a substitution(s), the signal for shortening a timeout shall be given and play shall be resumed immediately."

NCAAW has a specific signal for this. There's no similar signal shown for NCAAM.

I forgot to thank you for this. I'd forgotten that the NCAA had a provision for the requesting team to shorten the timeout for substitutions. NFHS does not have this, but I've seen officials use an IW to accomplish the same thing.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by sseltser

I remember this happening too. It was near the end of a Syracuse game that they won easily. I was going to bring it up here, but figured nobody saw it. The official who was running by Syr's bench did signal a travel. I'm thinking that maybe Jimmy Boeheim said something like "call a travel so I can get my walk-ons in" because he didn't want to take a time out. Any thoughts on this? Can time-outs be shortened in NCAA-M?

Still, you're right, the announcers never admitted a mistake. Of course it was under 2 minutes in a 20+ point blowout.

No, this is why you do not listen to commentators. NCAA Rules allow for a substitution timeout, which is done only for the reasons to get players into the game. The official calls the timeout and then gives a "travel like" signal to tell everyone that this is a substitution timeout. This was the game I saw and they gave the ball back tot he same team that had the ball that called the timeout. There was no violation called at all and the dumb azz announcers did not even realize this. This rule has been in place for about 4 or 5 years now.

Peace