The Official Forum

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Basketball (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/)
-   -   Out of Bounds Plays (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/55390-out-bounds-plays.html)

Jimbobb Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:48pm

Out of Bounds Plays
 
A player is attempting to save a ball from going out of bounds, he deflects the ball off an opposing player and the ball goes out of bounds.
However, the opposing player was out of bounds at the time of deflection.
Whats the call?

mutantducky Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:23am

um out of bounds. team A gets the ball. Who is team A? The team that is not Team B.


out of bounds on the guy standing out if the first person saving the ball never went out before the ball the second guy.

just another ref Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbobb (Post 635902)
A player is attempting to save a ball from going out of bounds, he deflects the ball off an opposing player and the ball goes out of bounds.
However, the opposing player was out of bounds at the time of deflection.
Whats the call?

This wording could not describe the play accurately, as it would indicate the ball went out of bounds after the deflection. Actually, if the deflecting player was out of bounds, the ball is out of bounds when it touches/is touched by this player.

Back In The Saddle Fri Nov 13, 2009 03:53am

Let's consult The Great Big Book of Everything:

"The ball is caused to go out of bounds by the last player in bounds to touch it or be touched by it, unless the ball touches a player who is out of bounds prior to touching something out of bounds other than a player.

"If the ball is out of bounds because of touching or being touched by a player who is on or outside a boundary line, such player causes it to go out." (NFHS 7-2, NCAA 7-2 is equivalent)

If the opponent is OOB and is touched by the ball, the opponent causes the ball to be OOB. Violation on the opponent. The ball is awarded to A for a throw-in at that spot.

BillyMac Fri Nov 13, 2009 07:47am

Amazon.com ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 635919)
Let's consult The Great Big Book of Everything.

Sounds interesting. Where can I purchase this book?

mbyron Fri Nov 13, 2009 07:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 635936)
Sounds interesting. Where can I purchase this book?

Yes, of course Amazon has it. And it's only $6. :)

Jimbobb Fri Nov 13, 2009 01:51pm

So its OOB on the defelecting player B even if he's an OOB player?
So if the ball was deflected off the pole or backboard, then it would be out on player A?
Looks to me like player A is basically throwing the ball OOB cuz player B is already out of bounds?
interesting..

cdaref Fri Nov 13, 2009 02:00pm

Moral of the story: dont be out of bounds. Then guys (or girls) cant throw the ball off you.

Adam Fri Nov 13, 2009 02:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 635936)
Sounds interesting. Where can I purchase this book?

Here you go, Billy.

Back In The Saddle Fri Nov 13, 2009 02:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 636061)

Don't Panic!

Back In The Saddle Fri Nov 13, 2009 02:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbobb (Post 636058)
So its OOB on the defelecting player B <s>even if he's an OOB player</s> because he is OOB.

Fix it for you ;)

Camron Rust Fri Nov 13, 2009 04:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbobb (Post 636058)
So its OOB on the defelecting player B even if he's an OOB player?
So if the ball was deflected off the pole or backboard, then it would be out on player A?
Looks to me like player A is basically throwing the ball OOB cuz player B is already out of bounds?
interesting..

Yep....to have it any other way would open an undesireable set of possibilities.

Amesman Fri Nov 13, 2009 06:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 635937)
Yes, of course Amazon has it. And it's only $6. :)

And a steal at 10 times the price ... Stanley is THE man.

BillyMac Fri Nov 13, 2009 08:12pm

Would Somebody Please Tell Barbra To Shut Up ...
 
Let's not forget that many years ago, if A1 were making a throwin, and the thrown ball contacted B1 who was out of bounds, then A1 was deemed to have caused the ball to go out of bounds, and Team B got the ball for a throwin. That old, long dead, rule still confuses people today, even those who weren't alive when the rule existed. Kind of like some urban myths, they just hang around for no rational reason.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:08pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1