All or None
 

This has previously been stated at this forum:

The throw-in, the count, "at disposal" and "too late for the other team to be granted a time out" all occur at the same time. If you have one, you have them all. If you don't have one, you don't have any.

After a little reading, I am not sure this is correct.

Officals Handbook, 3.2.2H, If the throw-in is after a goal, the opposing team should be allowed reasonable time to secure the ball at the end line after which the five-second count is started. My interp: Even though the player has secured the ball, I, possibly, may not start the five-second count until they are "at the end line."

Officials Handbook, 3.4.4A(8), After a successful FT or FG, any player or head coach may request a time out, until the non-scoring team secures the ball for the throw-in. Once the official begins the 5-second count, the scoring team cannot be granted a time out. My interp: If the official starts a 5-second count prior to the non-scoring team securing the ball, it is too late for the scoring team to be granted a time out. If the non-scoring team has secured the ball but the official has not started a count (as in sitch above) it is too late for the scoring team to be granted a time out.

Does this ruin the "all or none" idea that makes such good sense to me? Or, should I just forget I ever read that and stick with "all or none"?

I think you're reading too much into it.
If the player secures the ball, after a basket, in bounds, you do not start your count and the scoring team may still request a timeout.

The relevant phrase isn't "secure the ball", it's "secure the ball at the end line."

All three things (TO, at disposal, count) occur at the same time.

So I should translate "secures the ball for the throw-in" to mean "secure the ball at the end line"? I hope that is what you are saying because that fits perfectly with my screwed up logic. :)

You really aren't too busy.:p

One Nevadaref is enough. LOL:D

Wow, taking a shot at me with only your 2nd post! ;)

BTW the NFHS has already provided an answer to the question posed in the OP. One can find it in our Past Interps Archive.

2006-07 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations

SITUATION 9: With less than one minute to play in the fourth quarter, Team A scores a field goal to tie the game. B1, standing under the basket after the score, secures the ball and begins heading to the end line for the ensuing throw-in. A1 requests and is granted a time-out. RULING: Legal procedure. Team A may request and be granted a time-out until the ensuing throw-in begins. The throw-in does not begin until B1 has the ball at his/her disposal and the official has begun the five-second count.