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View Poll Results: Has Joe Forte treated the NBA replacements refs in the Big South fairly?
Yes 27 52.94%
No 24 47.06%
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 08:49pm
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My name is Adam Jones and I'm from Utah. I was forwarded this thread by a friend and felt the need to post. I am a fan and have no stake in this matter. I do have a stake in anonymous accusations posted on message boards that have the ability to threaten the employment of an individual.

If ncaambbref has the audacity to make these claims, then he should have the balls to identify himself. For how could anyone believe his claims without a signature???

We have found ourselves in an age where anyone can cause life-altering changes to another, without fear of reprisal. And that is wrong.

I hope Mr. Kallander stands by Mr. Forte. As he should.
Ask ANYONE affected and you will find out that what I stated is true and a FACT!
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 08:55pm
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We should be backing these guys because they represent all of us. Don't you see that how this whole thing plays out directly influences how all referees are viewed and respected on all levels?
We are all in this together as referees.

They (NBA referees) do NOT represent me. Period.
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 09:03pm
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Amazing...

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have you not seen joe's response yet...

http://www.bscc-refs.com/jf_statement.html
At least there is a response. lol

What about the fact that he sent out emails wanting to know who was working and then did not give any of those guys games when he found out who they were. Amazing how things happen from this site...lol.

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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 10:15pm
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Re: ncaambbref's lack of education

Wow.

So all of this uproar over a posting from someone with AT MOST a 10th grade education?

"...unprofessional treatment that is being displayed on and to some of your officials..."

Now I may not be an English professor, but I am pretty sure you cannot display treatment, of any kind, "on" a human being.

Only an insecure, shallow, small minded, feeble little man-child would post a message like this on a forum without a signature.

Joe Forte is one of the best officials the NBA has ever had, and if there is any justice in this world, officiating in the NBA will forever remain an unattainable dream for people like you.

I hope you get what you deserve - and that is a lifetime of officiating girls Junior High basketball games in lower Alabama for the rest of your miserable life.

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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 10:19pm
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Wow.

So all of this uproar over a posting from someone with AT MOST a 10th grade education?

"...unprofessional treatment that is being displayed on and to some of your officials..."

Now I may not be an English professor, but I am pretty sure you cannot display treatment, of any kind, "on" a human being.

Only an insecure, shallow, small minded, feeble little man-child would post a message like this on a forum without a signature.

Joe Forte is one of the best officials the NBA has ever had, and if there is any justice in this world, officiating in the NBA will forever remain an unattainable dream for people like you.

I hope you get what you deserve - and that is a lifetime of officiating girls Junior High basketball games in lower Alabama for the rest of your miserable life.

Sincerely,

Todd Johnson
67 Feeble Little Man-Child Street
Insecure, CO 22222

Thanks for your well wishes. Yeah...officials are a brotherhood? NOT.
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 10:20pm
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one more thing...

...you mention that personal attacks on you do not change the facts. Funny thing is that you offer no facts. Only your clearly biased opinion.
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 10:26pm
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...you mention that personal attacks on you do not change the facts. Funny thing is that you offer no facts. Only your clearly biased opinion.
Facts:

* Forte sent out an email to staffers requesting the names of those who were working the lockout. (I doubt that ANY other coordinator did this)

* No one working the lockout received games this year even though they received games last year.

* Some lockout refs requested to miss the Big South clinic and were granted permission.

* Forte is a convicted felon for tax evasion - disputes the integrity claim.

* Forte served his time by being on HOME INCARCERATION for several months.

* The NBA grants Forte permission to be a supervisor in the first place - outside employment MUST be approved.

* The Big South has contacted several affected officials in THEIR investigation PRIOR to this thread!

Those are the FACTS!!!
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Old Sun Oct 18, 2009, 10:33pm
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I never said that Joe was not a good official...which he clearly is. He is historic as a matter of fact in a very good way. But he has exercised POOR judgment in how he is treating a certain group of officials due to his personal bias.

Joe clearly knows this thread is going on, so why doesn't he come on here and clear the air? Since I have no balls according to some, where are his? He knows what he has done and he knows it is wrong...no matter how he tries to defend his actions.
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Old Mon Oct 19, 2009, 12:39am
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Have you noticed how the maturity level here has risen so sharply lately?
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Old Tue Oct 20, 2009, 07:48am
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To ncaambbref:

You have way too much time on your hands to keep this trivial carping going. It sounds as if you're going to have even more free time on your hands when the season starts. Enjoy..... it won't be long now that we'll all be back on the floor, including Joe and you'll be home with ......yourself.

So sad....
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